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Hardware QA is sometimes hit and miss, but Roccat mice have a shift feature that is implemented in firmware. The same goes for their macros: their mouse emulates a keyboard at the hardware level. That way it Just Werks and you don't need some cringey gamer-themed spyware always running in the background just to make full use of it, like you do for many features with Logitech mice. My go-to atm is the Kone XP, which doesn't have as many side buttons as the Logitech G6xx mice. They do make an 'MMO mouse' with many many buttons like that called the 'Nyth'.

Unfortunately their configuration software hasn't supported macOS for a long time, but you can configure your device on a Windows VM via USB passthrough, which is what I do. Alternatively, there are also several reverse-engineered tools for configuring Roccat mice, including libratbag (and the older roccat-tools) for Linux and roccat-iokit for macOS, if you'd be interested in either choosing a model according to what's supported there or adding support for the Nyth.



I wasn't aware of Roccat! sounds like what I'm after, especially without the gamer aesthetics. The Roccat Nyth looks close to what I'm after, but I'm pretty married to my muscle memory with using 4x3 buttons (of which are all in use, in both layers).

Because it is possible with G-Hub, I was just curious if anyone knew what the gap is between SteerMouse's support and G-Hub's support for the seamless G-Shift/shift key experience. I don't know enough about hardware to make a guess.

I'm 100% fine with using a separate OS to config the mouse, since my layout is not app specific. Despite the button layout difference, this will definitely be the mouse I try out next.


> I wasn't aware of Roccat! sounds like what I'm after, especially without the gamer aesthetics. The Roccat Nyth looks close to what I'm after, but I'm pretty married to my muscle memory with using 4x3 buttons (of which are all in use, in both layers).

Oh the mouse will be a bit gamer-y. You'll only get to escape from the gamer-y software. :)

In seriousness, I love mine for 'productivity' (a more pleasant desktop experience).

> Because it is possible with G-Hub, I was just curious if anyone knew what the gap is between SteerMouse's support and G-Hub's support for the seamless G-Shift/shift key experience. I don't know enough about hardware to make a guess.

I also have a similar Logitech mouse, the wireless G602. I can't remember all of the details, but one of the things I wanted to do with it (I think bind a layer 2 button press to a key chord) is something I was told I couldn't do 'without G-Hub', and in particular its Lua scripting interface.

I'm mildly curious about the division of duties there, too, which presumably also explains the behavior you observed (SteerMouse has to reimplement something G-Hub normally takes care of, and they did it differently).




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