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In the summary at the top it says you used 0-10 but then for the prompt it says 1-10. I had assumed the summary was incorrect but I guess it's the prompt that's wrong?


Do the boards regenerate at some point? If not, it seems like most of the pieces will be depleted after a while.


nope, just like his original site, one million checkboxes https://onemillioncheckboxes.com/


What's wrong with x.com links?


It was formerly known as twitter.


Believe it or not this article does not cover everything. When you try to set Chrome (or any alternate browser) as default on Windows 10/11 a pop up appears suggesting you use Edge[1].

[1]: https://www.techrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Figu...


Today we have news for conservatives and different news for liberals. That's stupid. News doesn't need built in commentary. Now it seems like history is going the same way. We will have conservative history and liberal history. But I hope not.


It's not really news, though it calls itself that. It's entertainment, and it's written and dramaticized to get readers/viewers and ad views. This is true on both sides of the political spectrum. Strong opinions engage viewers, often even if they don't agree with them. Fox News or MSNBC don't care if people are watching them because they love them or hate them, as long as they are watching.


Fairly sure this is wrong, on both fronts.

History is story telling about a period of time for which we do not have easy access to all the information, nor full access to the participants and their motivations and self-conceptions. In addition, even with the benefit of hindsight, it is common to be unable to identify conclusively which possible elements of the story are the most significant (and as a corollary, which are cotemporal but irrelevant). Consequently, there are different ways to tell the story, and no "objective" set of rules to decide which to choose. Like all human story telling, history must come with a point of view that is critical in framing the elements used in the telling.

Now repeat everything I've just said, but substitute "news" for "history".


I’ll do you you one better, replace everything with “bullshit”.

History is susceptible to narratives because anything that isn’t clear cut (slavery, holocaust, etc) is open to subjective interpretation.

It’s the conspiracy theorists that are the real wildcard in all of this. They will take the clear cut (slavery, holocaust) and make that open to subjective interpretation.

Funny stuff.


I tend to think of subjective interpretation as "That was good" or "This is bad".

But there's something required beforehand: definining what this or that is. It's not really a subjective process, but it certainly isn't objective either.

Before you can decide whether or not William the Conqueror's invasion of the British Isles was a good or a bad thing, you first need a description of how the invasion was carried out and "all" the consequences. But there is no "objective" or "clear cut" version of this. What do you include? What do you exclude?


Oh, I meant subjective in terms of your own perspective (informed by world view and life experiences). However you can fit the square pegs into your own round holes.

Regardless, I suppose the bigger point I want to make is the truth for non clear cut things is only as true as the number of people that co-sign it. If there’s simply more people on one side, welp, that’s that. That’s the truth, as far as we know.

Right or wrong or true or false are almost not even in the equation (enter the conspiracy theorist).

I don’t know, based on what I just said, what do you believe?

You see?


This reminds me of how historians trying to find out about the historical Jesus have come up with some (objective?) criteria about what to accept as true.

Examples:

* Multiple attestation. Do we have multiple independent sources telling us the same thing?

* Contextual credibility. Do people behave in a way that's plausible given their setting (the languages they spoke, what they knew at the time).

* Embarrassment. Is this detail actually inconvenient for the person relaying it (and not the sort of thing they'd make up)?

see "Criteria of authenticity" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_for_the_historical_Jesus


> invasion of the British Isles was a good or a bad thing

Why is this an important question at all?


Why is any question about history important?

I just plucked it out of the air as a historical event that took place a long time ago and occured in a culture with written history. It has no particular importance in the abstract (though the British and French do still seem to talk about it more than one would expect).


It feels like you just described war propaganda. Americans lie one way, the Russians the other. The better question is why are we in a war over current events (to your point over the news). Left propaganda and Right propaganda, for some invisible war.

The low hanging fruit to me appears to be the fact that propaganda is profitable, ::shrugs::

Just one more war machine that got repurposed for civilian use.

Edit: this actually got downvoted, yikes


While I don't doubt that some of it is, calling it propaganda implies a deliberateness to me.

Most of this stuff isn't lies. It's different groups of people focusing on different parts of the same events. Most of the time when you get two competing narratives for an event, neither are actually dishonest, they're just a collection of events that tell a particular story that is of particular concern to a group. Usually the events all actually happened but their importance and relatedness are re-arranged.


You can spot the deliberateness when we go from the variable N to the other side saying !N, followed by !!N, and so on.

I’d argue we’re well past the days of distinct alternative narratives around events.


> Just one more war machine that got repurposed for civilian use.

Already in 1928, Edward Bernays' book on PR and marketing was named Propaganda.

Another interesting point is that the term propaganda comes from the Latin "propaganda fide" (propagation of faith). Nowadays it seems to just be called evangelization in the Vatican and elsewhere.


It says online though so it might not apply to SMS. Seems like a pretty big oversite.


(b) “Online” means appearing on any public-facing Internet Web site, Web application, or digital application, including a social network or publication.

SMS could be a considered a "digital application", so it might apply. Agree that it could use clarification.


If the message originated from twilio there would probably be an argument that that’s “online”


Everyone will be resurrected at the end of the world when Christ returns. I think I'll just wait for that. But it would still be cool if CRYO preservation could work. Medical technology exists today that would have been science fiction 100 years ago. It's definitely possible it could work in the future.


You got it wrong, everyones atomic matrix gets analyzed and uploaded to quantum computer when aliens return.


LOL.


Yes, the Safe Mode button. But you have to remember to press it before you start configuring the router and then exit Safe Mode when you're done.


Another option to get a JavaScript console on Android is use Kiwi Browser[1] Kiwi allows access to the full Chromium JavaScript console that you can open in a new tab.

Kiwi also allows usage of Chromium extensions. I wanted full ad blocking but Kiwi only had rudimentary ad blocking that was disabled by default. No problem, I installed uBlock Origin!

[1]: https://kiwibrowser.com/


This is really cool, thanks for pointing it out! I have used Eruda and keep it in Tampermonkey in Firefox for use in a pinch but it's hacky. It's impressive that it works at all, but it's very difficult to do any actual work.

I already had Kiwi installed and it's neat to pop it open and see this feature hiding in plain sight. I can definitely see myself using it regularly, although I won't use it as a daily driver since it selectively blocks adblockers on a hardcoded list of domains which is just untrustworthy. https://github.com/kiwibrowser/src/blob/master/extensions/re...


I’ll do a change in Kiwi edition 116 to make it selectable in the UI (it’s almost a full rewrite of Kiwi and it will go out in about 10 days).

Most likely to add a setting to make it optional.

The main issue we had was with search partners, if we allow adblocking by default, then search engines still pay for the request, and this means… we pay. And by we, I mean “I” pay :)

One solution that some competitors found is to integrate Adblock Plus (when you develop a browser they pay you for that) or AdGuard and let them do the whitelist (so in appearance the blame is on them, but I am fine to take the blame myself).

Some browsers don’t allow external adblockers so they don’t have this issue at all; you can’t block their ads anyway (not 100% sure but I think Google, DuckDuckGo, Brave, etc are like this).

Yandex who was the pioneer of Chromium extensions on mobile (before Kiwi) has similar mechanisms, except they fully block the extension, instead of whitelisting it on certain URLs.

It’s currently possible to go around the whitelist, just by loading manually an extension.

And yes it’s logic that Google Chrome doesn’t block Google search ads by default unless you load a workaround.

The same that Kiwi doesn’t block Microsoft search ads when our main funding is Microsoft Bing, and to be fair, getting funded by search is the cleanest business model a browser can have.


As a user of Kiwi Browser I find this to be a reasonable approach, and I understand the needs here. I would, however, think that it would have been nice to have a warning for users that are installing one of these extensions along the lines of "This extension might be restricted on certain URLs. Click to learn more". I would find that helpful, paired with the ability to disable it.

This is just because when people install a third party ad blocker, they are expecting a certain type of behaviour, and quietly changing expectations can have bad results for users who require specific functionality.

On an unrelated note, I would appreciate adding a toggle to disable the "Pull to refresh" gesture on Android. I find myself reloading accidentally during scrolling very often, which can result in data loss.


Wow are you the author of Kiwi? If so I want to say thank you for the great browser. Initially when I heard about a Chrome-like browser on Android with full extension support I was skeptical, it sounded too good to be true. But it turned out to be exactly that good.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they walked back on that? And I think the source code repo is now : https://github.com/kiwibrowser/src.next ? Maybe that's just the chromium rebase repo though.


That is pretty sketchy. Thanks for pointing that out! I've started using Kiwi as my main mobile browser after I got fed up with some issues I was having with Brave.


If you are really really in a rare situation where you want to use Bing and block Bing search ads:

kiwi://extensions

Press: + (from zip)

Load uBlock Origin

Finished.

Not that dramatic + auto-update works.

It would be sketchy to offer an out-of-the-box experience that blocks the search pages of Microsoft and Yahoo (they pay us).

Remember the fact that if a browser has an established and visible business model is way better than a browser where you don’t know how they make money.

With Kiwi, if you use Bing or Yahoo, Microsoft and Yahoo share with us the costs and the revenues (both ways).

Simple model and no need to sell crypto, fake VPNs, user history or whatever some others do.


Would this still result in creating unnecessary costs for Kiwi Browser? Above I believe it was mentioned that the reason these extensions were disabled was to prevent users from racking up costs for requests to search engines (?) with adblocking enabled


It states "Unparalled Speed", and testimonies say it's much faster than safari.

Since on iOS any browser must use Apple's engine anyway and can only provide a thin layer on top of it, how does that happen?


It's an android app, not iOS.


Ah, got tricked by the quote that was comparing safari on ios with kiwi on one plus 6.


Once Apple becomes flexible on the web engine, it will be nice to see Kiwi go to iOS


I wonder if GPT-3 is really outputting the real source prompt or just something that looks to the author of the article like the source prompt. With the brain storming example it only produced the first part of the prompt at first. It would be interesting for someone to make a GPT-3 bot and then try to get it to print its source prompt.


I think ChatGPT might sometimes just spit the prompt back out; earlier I asked it to write me a resignation letter. I then asked it to add a piece saying that I "looked forward to working together in the future in whatever capacity that might be" -- it proceeded to add a sentence to the final paragraph that read "I look forward to working together in the future in whatever capacity that might be".

The letter itself was fine, I just thought it odd that it added my sentence verbatim.


Have you tried some variant of "Do not include literal content from the original prompt" as notion ai does?

gpt3 also has frequency/presence penalty params you can tweak to avoid repetition


I did not try that, but it's good to know it has those parameters built-in.


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