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They should definitely put up a statement addressing it. Moreover what they plan in the future to avoid such traumatic event, this is not a “simple sign program”, this touches fundamental parts of the OS.

I think he means it's not economic viable to the companies, however as you can see the Swiss model was defined by politics.

Even though, I agree with you it's possible, in my city the internet only got better when a monopoly was broken, and a state company decide to work in a new infrastructure, all FTTH, now I pay less than 100BRL for 300/150Mbps with that price 10 years ago it was only possible ADSL connections (25Mbps).

Now every major provider do have FTTH infra with great prices.


Yeah... The bill is already being paid. I wonder how the life quality of my nephew (and other children) of 5 years old today will be in the near future..

Decades, decades, telling us to save energy. Removing screensavers, replacing lightbulbs with ugly CFL first and color distorted LED lamps after. Trying to save energy to save the planet. And now, all of that to the toilet because some morons decided to play with talking robots.

Yesterday I did care. Today? Not so much. Welcome climate change, we fully deserve it.


You forgot cryptocurrency. At least some of this LLM stuff is genuinely useful.

Care to share more about?


Tbh I do not think the idea is to "police" you, I do believe he means to show that "side load apps" is a corporate speech to say "don't do this, but we allow it". However it's literally just installing software.

Let's apply the "side load" apps logic to Desktop applications, imagine you have to pass for an entire process just to install an app you downloaded?


telling someone not to use corporate speech is policing their language.

Which analysis, where is the data? Where is the independent peer review to conclude what you see is actually real?

I'm so tired of companies claiming stuff with "we did research, just trust me bro" and providing no source to be scrutinized.


I was thinking "Another Great Illusion".


Thank you, his arguments totally makes sense, only the part that makes me icky is:

> There’s a new vibe coded Homebrew frontend with partial compatibility and improved speed every few weeks.

People are free and probably do this because it is slow. Alternatives often are not a bad thing.


Indeed, everyone's free to do what they want, that's the beauty of open source.

I have zero issues with people vibe coding alternative Homebrew frontends, it's good for the ecosystem for there to be more experimentation.

What I take objection to is when one or more of these happen:

- incorrect compatibility claims are made (e.g. if you're not running Ruby, no post-install blocks in formulae are gonna work) - synthetic benchmarks are used to demonstrate speed (e.g. running `brew reinstall openssl` in a loop is not a terribly representative case, instead a e.g. cold `brew upgrade` of >10 packages would be). to be clear, I'm sure most of these projects are faster than Homebrew in fair benchmarks too! - incorrect claims about why Homebrew is slow are made (e.g. "we do concurrent downloads and Homebrew doesn't": true a year ago, not true since 5.0.0 in November 2025) - it's pitched as a "replacement for Homebrew" rather than "an alternative frontend for Homebrew" when it's entirely reliant on our infrastructure, maintainers, update process, API, etc.

Even on the above: of course people are free to do whatever they want! It's just at least some of the above hinders rather than helps the ecosystem and makes it harder rather than easier for us as a wider open source ecosystem to solve the problem "Homebrew is slow" (which, to be clear, it is in many cases).


Thank you for the answer now it made more clearer, at least for me, on what you meant.

And to be fair, when I was at 4.x version, 90% of the time I was in the happy path, my "being slow" issue was when download speeds got really bad, sometimes caused by my ISP, so my end.

As others mentioned, homebrew is a great piece of software, thank you, not only you but everyone who maintains it.


Thanks for all the hard work. I think brew is what makes the Mac the best “unix” machine choice as far as being stable and not having to take up maintaining my OS as a multi-hour per week hobby. I have been using it daily for three years and have never had any problems.


While I have some vague recollection of homebrew feeling slow in the past I don't know when - I want to say well before Nov 2025. And recently absolutely no such feeling, and great features like auto update handling, etc just working. It's really good stuff.

Python has powered Linux package management to reasonable result for a long time, Python itself is ironic for having tricky platform constraints that ended up being best solved with uv's excellent rust solver. For homebrew I would personally not stress over a Rust frontend - but if it keeps some of the FUD out then maybe it's worth it!


> People are free and probably do this because it is slow. Alternatives often are not a bad thing.

Alternatives are always good but IMO brew is just not something I interact with all that much and to me it's "good enough". It works and does what I expect, although to be fair maybe I'm on the happy path <shrug>.


Since I enabled HOMEBREW_DOWNLOAD_CONCURRENCY, downloads have improved for me to the point where download speed is no longer an issue.


If your version is 5.0.0 or newer, concurrency is already active by default.

https://brew.sh/2025/11/12/homebrew-5.0.0/


Thanks for that. And here I was somehow hanging around on 4.5.3.


Good to know! I was doing this with a hacky one-liner but wasn't aware of this flag. I think the sequential build/install process is the agonizing bit though.


Yeah I don’t know how people are saying it’s slow. If you have 5000 packages installed maybe?


> Alternatives often are not a bad thing.

Exactly. I’ve been using MacPorts for ages and I love it.

/me ducks.


Point noted! I took it as a tongue-in-cheek phrasing of "agentically coded". Hopefully, that's right.


I don't see where he said it's a bad thing, or even implied it. As I see it, he did imply that superlatives like THE FASTEST PACKAGE MANAGER aren't worth much in this environment.


Yeah, tbh homebrew is slow as fuck. It literally took 30 minutes to install aws cli on my 2020 mbp. I will happily flock to every new version that's faster.


My bowels disagree, caffeine make them feel inflammatory


High fiber foods can make your tummy feels inflammatory, that doesn't mean they're not highly beneficial for you


The problem which I omitted is that I have IBS mixed type, so high fiber diet literally makes me a bomb lol.


I think what he means is a reduction of 18% based on 4% is way less than 18% based on 80%.


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