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I think this is a great idea with the wrong pricing model. Look at all the one off payment products that involve code, they're all dead. Just charge a lower but recurring price so I can be sure that you make enough money that you keep working on it. $20/month flat price to keep the license working and source available if you shut down. If people like it and want the barebones Sentry then charge them $40 a month to provide code and host it. Wishing you the best of luck.


> Look at all the one off payment products that involve code, they're all dead.

Could you share some examples? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.

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I really went all-in with the ONCE philosophy because it resonated with me deeply. It felt more like a passion project than cold business strategy.


I think all of the boilerplate projects you can find.

Are ONCE projects getting updates? We will find a year or two?

Your model is a subscription, we just don’t get to know when you decide to have a new major version and plan pricing / spend as a result.


ONCE projects do get occasional updates. I don’t use boilerplate projects much, so I can’t speak to them.

My model isn’t a subscription. Think about it like buying rice. You might buy it every week, but that doesn’t mean you’re “subscribed” to rice.

Even if I release a new major version, you’re free not to update. And if it’s a major version, it’s fair to expect it to be paid. After all, major updates usually bring significant improvements. For example, if you played the original DOOM, you had to pay for DOOM 2 too, even though they run on the same engine.


There are so many people buying rice that's not hard for rice producers to forecast how many thousands of tons of rice they have to grow each year. And not many people look at how much they spend for rice year long. For the single box, yes, they do notice. So it's not a subscription but it looks like it is, at least from the point of view of the seller.


Yes but I don't rely on rice I bought a year ago or DOOM as a core component of my business. Trying to work around a business model (subscription saas) requires that you understand what people are buying, and often, especially with you vendors, that is a financial alignment between the two.


If you bought DaVinci Resolve several years ago, you're still able to update to 20.<whatever> and use the same licence key.

Granted they're not interested in taking 225 quid off you for a software licence, they're interested in taking 22 grand off Netflix for a complete edit desk.


That's a fair point. In my case, though, I'm a solo dev without a hardware ecosystem, so major versions help sustain development without forcing subscriptions. What do you think about models like that for indie projects?


The problem with ONCE is that software is never finished. This is why most ONCE software that is still available today is charging a one off licensing fee + update fee (e.g. charge yearly for major updates or 10% of the one off fee per year). This is sustainable, but your model isn't. You will notice down the road in 2-4 years that it's no fun to work for free for users that expect an update because it requires patching or there are breaking changes.


That’s a fair concern, but I see it differently. Software can reach a point of maturity - not “dead” just done. That’s the whole philosophy behind ONCE: build something great, maintain it responsibly, and stop when it’s complete.


He is selling updates. You pay once for 1.x. That's a fine and okay business model that has been functioning for very long.


https://www.reaper.fm/ uses that pricing and has... let's say fanatical following. You pay once for version X and X+1 just in case you miss out on an update coming in a month. Then you pay again for a big upgrade.


Alert fatigue. Down Detector will show an outage with a service when the intermediate network is down. Companies have to triage alerts and once they’re validated they are posted on a status page. Some companies abuse this to hide their outages. Others delay in a reasonable manner.

I have considered building something to address this and even own honeststatuspage.com to eventually host it on. But it’s a complex problem without an obviously correct answer.


Yeah. Down Detector is more or less meaningless unless something massive has happened, and as you say it has terrible consequences for knock-on services.

It's not even just intermediate networks, it's sometimes direct coinnections. For example, a flood of people reporting an outage on mobile phone network X when the problem they are experiencing is not being able to call a loved one who is on phone network Y, which is the one that is down. This happened a little while back in the UK, leading the other phone providers to have to deny there was some broad outage (which is not an easy thing to reassure when there are so many MVNOs sharing network Y)


I've seen all sorts of Azure outages that never wind up on their status page. Granted they could be unique to a small pool of services.


Because the outcomes and demographics for sports betting vs the other two show different aggregate money movements and we make judgements about what we consider to be acceptably and unacceptably informed and consenting risk accepting behavior.


Merceds has accepted a degree of liability? https://www.prescouter.com/2024/04/mercedes-benz-level-3-dri...


As someone who uses Docuseal, please don’t focus on this and add UX improvements for end users. For example, filters for who has signed things.


I build all kinds of “useless” stuff. Recently I did a LoungeBuddy clone[0]. Prior to that I made a bunch of other things you can see at [1]. I toss things on domains I happen to own if it makes sense. Sometimes they live on a path of an existing domain. If I don’t need the thing anymore I recycle the domain for something else. I’m fortunate enough that I can afford to pay this tax on my entertainment.

[0] https://www.tacavo.com/ [1] https://abrega.com


I build random things in the “indie hacker” way but it’s always more about doing stuff for me than others. I find it enjoyable and fun, and that’s what drives it. If I get some traction, then great, but if not, I also get the tool I wanted and the fun experience and learning of building it. While I wish this didn’t come at the expense of reading less, I am happy it means my TV backlog is growing.


I think you can celebrate the ingenuity of a moment in a conflict without condoning the whole of it. Shooting down a plane with a helicopter is hard, this is the first time it happened as far as we know.

Also, when I was taught about the Vietnam War there was a huge amount of respect paid to the creativity of the North Korean forces in how they ran their military operations. Obviously a 1/n anecdote.


FWIW, I was taught that it's unfortunate we didn't get all of Korea.


Pure guess on my part, but I suspect today’s North Korean population might wish we’d gotten the north too.


I have the meta ray bans, they’re amazing. Not as a general computing device but as a hands free minimal one. I love using it in place of where you would usually think of an action cam. At the beach, go karting, on a run, riding a bike, on a ride, etc


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