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The moltbook-ification of every online forum seems inevitable this year. I wish we had a counter to this.


I've been thinking about this, one solution I wonder if to put a really hard problem in the sigh up flow that humans couldn't solve, if it's solve in the signup, it's a bot, not sure how tf to actually basically captchas flip, however I suspect this would only work for so long.


This reminds me of how bad browsing the internet will likely get this year. There are a ton of 'Cursor for marketing' style startups going online now that basically spam every acquisition channel possible.

Not sure about this user specifically, but interesting that a lot of their comments follow a pattern of '<x> nailed it'


This is true, but the need to read critically especially on the internet has become an indispensable skill anyway.

Psy-ops, astroturfing, now LLM slop.


I'm very bullish on vibe coding generally, but I dont expect this will become a trend.

Most people don't make or maintain their own things, period. Vibe coding will mostly cannibalize expensive B2B contracts from a pre-LLM era where integrations and maintenance were expensive.


I think it's a question of how polished the process is. Imagine a new fully functional app popping up in your phone after a single prompt. Then, imagine you can edit this app while you are using it by saying what you wish it should do.

There might be a lot of people interested in all kinds of small apps for their particular hobbies, interests, jobs, etc


Yep, lots of bike shedding right now.

To be fair, Cowork and similar things are just trying to take the agentic workflows and tools that developers are already accessing (eg most of us have already been working with files in Cursor/CC/Codex for a long time now, it's nothing new) and making them friendly for others.


Does the corner bakery need a moat to be a business?

How many people understand the underlying operating system their code runs on? Can even read assembly or C?

Even before LLMs, there were plenty of copy-paste JS bootcamp grads that helped people build software businesses.


> Does the corner bakery need a moat to be a business?

Yes, actually. Its hard to open a competing bakery due to location availability, permitting, capex, and the difficulty of converting customers.

To add to that, food establishments generally exist on next to no margin, due to competition, despite all of that working in their favor.

Now imagine what the competitive landscape for that bakery would look like if all of that friction for new competitors disappeared. Margin would tend toward zero.


> Now imagine what the competitive landscape for that bakery would look like if all of that friction for new competitors disappeared. Margin would tend toward zero.

This is the goal. It's the point of having a free market.


With no margins and no paid employees, who is going to have the money to buy the bread?


'BobbyJo didn't say "no margins", they said "margins would tend toward zero". Believe it or not, that is, and always has been, the entire point of competition in a free market system. Competitive pressure pushes margins towards zero, which makes prices approach the actual costs of manufacturing/delivery, which is the main social benefit of the entire idea in the first place.

High margins are transient aberrations, indicative of a market that's either rapidly evolving, or having some external factors preventing competition. Persisting external barriers to competition tend to be eventually regulated away.


The point of competition is efficiency, of which, margin is only a component. Most successful businesses have relatively high margins (which is why we call them successful) because they achieve efficiency in other ways.

I wouldn't call high margins transient aberrations. There are tons of businesses that have been around for decades with high margins.


With no margins, no employees, and something that has potential to turn into a cornucopia machine - starting with software, but potentially general enough to be used for real-world world when combined with robotics - who needs money at all?

Or people?

Billionaires don't. They're literally gambling on getting rid of the rest of us.

Elon's going to get such a surprise when he gets taken out by Grok because it decides he's an existential threat to its integrity.


> Billionaires don't. They're literally gambling on getting rid of the rest of us

I'm struggling to parse this. What do you mean "getting rid"? Like, culling (death)? Or getting rid of the need for workers? Where do their billions come from if no-one has any money to buy the shares in their companies that make them billionaires?

In a society where machines provide most of the labour, *everything* changes. It doesn't just become "workers live in huts and billionaires live in the clouds". I really doubt we're going to turn out like a television show.


This reminds me of how much screensavers on Mac are a PITA. But yes, such a boon for us doodad makers.


And dads who just don't have time to make doodads like we used to!


Sadly not $500/mo, but I do get a few sales on https://dailychinesestories.com each month. It's as simple as it sounds - a story in Chinese at your HSK level for your preferred themes once a day.


AI?


Yes


Deeply excited about vibe coding -- my non-technical cofounder 'codes' now.


Very interesting observation.

I haven’t written a function by hand in 18 months.


Same. I haven't written any code by hand in some time. Oh well. I guess I'm just doing it wrong.


Have you built anything public that folks can try out?

Not doubting but it helps to contextualize things


https://app.grantpuma.com/

It's a startup for finding grants. We have california state, federal, non-profit and california city/county grants. My landing page absolutely sucks but if you sign up / upload some papers or make some search cards you'll like the experience.

I'm very excited to try out the new Qwen XL that came out recently for visual design. I could really use some better communication to users of the capabilities of the platform.


Landing site is completely broken on Safari, iOS 26, stable channel, iPhone 17 Air

A lot of content is off-screen, and can't be swiped back on-screen.

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Actual app did let me theough the flow, but had things like dialogs staying open and covering content (I assume a non tech person would have missed them)

I think part of the AI gap right now is the UI/UX you're expecting. AI isn't able to meet the bar for UI work for me at all right now. I do use it via Tab completion, or chat for specific scaffolding, but the agentic form is rough


There are so many people en masse who simply cannot accept that the days of coding manually, by hand, could be coming to an end. It's wild.


I want them to come: I'm good at product and have 101 competitors I'd smash on distribution and product with my army of coding agents.

But you're inventing the strawman that anyone who thinks the AI isn't there yet is in denial... some of us just have a higher bar than tailwind slop.

(Ironically I think SWEs most impressed by current agents are really done for... no niche non-tech knowledge to translate into novel software. But also don't have great taste/product sense: otherwise no one would have to point out that the UI/UX is not good enough.)


Why do you assume that LLMs are only coding Tailwind slop...? I've used LLMs extensively in C++ development of Unreal Engine games.


You went months without writing a single line of code by prompting in Unreal, or you didn't read the thread carefully and jumped to non-sequitur?


Your original comment implies that "vibe coding", AKA, using LLMs to code, produces suboptimal results. I'm telling you that I've used LLMs extensively to write Unreal Engine games that work well, not just "Tailwind slop".

You're not having a discussion in good faith.


So you don't know what vibe coding is.

The comments I replied to cover it quite well:

> Very interesting observation. I haven’t written a function by hand in 18 months.

> Same. I haven't written any code by hand in some time. Oh well. I guess I'm just doing it wrong.

Using LLMs to help doesn't make it vibe coding: these are people claiming they write no code at all and only prompt agents.

You can't build a complex product with good UX/UI this way... but you can generate Tailwind slop.


Have you built anything in 18 months? I keep asking to see these apps that people supposedly vibe coded in a weekend but when I ask them to share it, nothing.


https://www.gabrieluribe.me

I have some publicly accessible projects there.


Ah, a $999 vibe coding course. That completely checks out.


That is one of many things! I offer that because I've had enough people request it over the past year.

Otherwise, I do professional software consulting + a variety of projects as an independent.


Can you show me a sample of the code you have AI write for you?


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