> what3words Is terrible

Yes

> search and rescue teams are actively against people using it.

Sadly no

https://media.neas.nhs.uk/news/3-words-can-save-lives

Creating a v4 socket should map to a v6 address lower down, making v6 transparent to v4 only applications.

the ISP can see 58 different ipv6 addresses sending packets in the last hour

With ipv4 it can see one ipv4 address

Now sure that 58 could all be on one device with 58 different IPs and using a different one for each connection

In reality that's not the case.

Okay but why does this matter? They're your ISP they also have your address, credit card number and a technician has been in your home and also supplied the router in the common case.

The theoretical vague problem here is being used to defend a status quo which has led to complete centralization of Internet traffic because of the difficulty of P2P connectivity due to NAT.

No device on my ipv6 vlans can establish P2P tunnels outside with random clients.

Firewalls and good old monetisation prevented your p2p connectivity utopia, not nat.

Sure you can do that

So what's the point in ipv6?

You can do fc00::/7 in addition to public addresses so your lights don't have public address while your phone does.

I mean, so many reasons. Not the least of which is carrier grade NAT is out. And that alone implies so much cost savings, performance increase, and home user flexibility .

I'm struggling to assume good faith on your question, since it's so strange. I feel like I need to start from scratch explaining the internet, since asking this question reveals a lack of knowledge about everything networking.

I don't have CG Nat, I choose a proper ISP. Opening a hole in my ipv6 firewall or forwarding a port in in my ipv4 firewall is effectively the same thing, I define the policy (allow traffic arriving on $address on tcp/1234 to this server on vlan 12) and it goes live.

Away from home, like I am at the moment, I vpn all my traffic back home, to work, or to a mullvad endpoint. Neither the hotel wifi nor tethering off my phone gives me a working ipv6 address (anything other than an fe80::) anyway.

All my workflows work on ipv4 only. Some workflows (especially around the corporate laptop) don't work on ipv6 only - maybe that's a zscaler thing, maybe its a windows thing.

As such the only choice is ipv4 with ipv6 as a nice to have, or ipv4 only.

Personally I prefer the smaller attack surface of a single network protocol.

Sounds like ipv6 is a good solution for people who choose ISPs with CGNat. It doesn't matter to me if I vpn home via my ipv6 endpoint or my ipv4 endpoint, I expose a very minimal set of services.

I guess if I wanted to host more than 4 servers on the same port at home it would be handy, as my ISP will only allow me to have 4 public IPs without paying for more. I don't host anything other than my wireguard endpoint and some UDP forwards which I specific redirect to where I want to go (desktop, laptop, server) - another great feature of nat, but yes nat66 can do that too.

But where's the killer feature of ipv6. Is it just CGNat on poor ISPs?

Sure, but they sit on an iot vlan where your firewall prevents access except specificly allowed services

You must have not read my original post. I said that the NAT provides an additional fallback layer of safety in case you accidentally misconfigure your firewall. (This has happened to me once before while working late and I’ve also seen it in the field.)

My ISP doesn't rotate my /48

However if I change my ISP I get a new one, and that means a renumbering.

This is an english speaking tech forum, so it’s safe to assume most people here live in a country that has nukes like the US, UK, India, probably decent number of people who came from China and Russia too.

sure, nobody would ever speak English as a second language ;)

$100 will buy €87. On January 1st 2025 it bought €96

Had you bought $1000 of S&P on Jan 1st 2025 you'd have $1070

Had you bought $1000 of EUR on the same day and put it under the bed, you'd have $1100

$1000 in DAX in Euros would be $1250 today

You literally launched a war on cheap oil.

Trump is the biggest environmentalist terrorist on the planet. Blow up a few schools and cause the world to double down on cutting out their oil usage.

It would be hilarious if people weren't dying.

His approval rating is at a historical low for any president at this point in their term, I think. People don't like ICE, pedophiles, or wars in the Middle East.

Wikipedia says about 40% of America approves of him

Latest I saw was 33%: https://www.umass.edu/news/article/president-trumps-approval...

"inanimate carbon rod"

I like that—wherever it came from. (And inanimate strangely sells it even harder.)

(Ha ha, and of course it is a reference to a popular show that I have been living under a rock not to have seen.)