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They exist because this is a bad faith effort of creating a CoC that only exists to mock the idea of CoCs


Just curious, where can I find their reasoning for removing apache & php from brew? Is it because they come pre-installed on macs?


They're removing those taps, but that's because they're migrating the formulas to homebrew core. Do a "brew update" and "brew search apache" and you can see they're all there, but now as just, e,g, "apache-httpd" rather than "homebrew/apache/apache-httpd". I assume the same is going to happen with PHP.


I reckon they have not been removed from homebrew, just relocated.

For example, apache has been moved to homebrew-core. You can see that in the archived repository: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-apache


Existing businesses have many incentives to not give bandwidth on their infrastructure to their competition - especially at competitive prices


In some countries, and in the USA until 2005, the regulations require incumbent service providers to lease their infrastructure to competitors. France has such requirements, and unsurprisingly they pay less for their fiber optic service than Americans.


That is the heart of the problem.


I agree with you.

however, the people murdering the thief would claim that they are not breaking any laws.


Pretty sure that his point in bringing that up isn't to say that what they are doing is unethical from a FOSS point of view, but rather he was making the point that it is entirely within Amazon's technical prowess to make their content available on Android devices


I think the addition of the phrase, "thus benefiting from Google's work", refutes an interpretation of purely technical capability. If that phrase had been omitted, I would be in agreement with you and would have had no reason to comment.


I would say that our genocide of the indigenous people's of North America was just as bad as either of those.

..and we're still invading their lands and violating treaties with them.


This is a bit misleading, given the documented atrocities that certain Native American tribes committed against settlers.

Fact is, there was no future in which they were going to keep their nice things and in which we would be able to get where we are today.


Yes, some Native American tribes treated the settlers badly too. (Even then, there was conflict within tribes regarding how to deal with whites.) But there was an order of magnitude difference in the amount of violence perpetrated and the amount of harm caused.


The "documented atrocities that certain Native American tribes committed" against INVADERS, you mean? Because it was their land, and the word "settlers" is a way to whitewash what people did to them - and are still doing to them today - which is invasion and genocide.


> I like to think that the "West" has progressed since then.

You might like to think so, but you'd be VERY VERY wrong. This year Trump surrogates began justifying their proposal to create a muslim registry by saying that the Japanese Internment gave precedence for their desired actions.


Yes, the no-politics experiment has ended (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251), but this comment is not great for HN in any case. When discussing controversial topics, the bar is actually higher for civility and substantiveness, and we need to especially avoid introducing flamewar topics without anything new to say as the guidelines ask of us. We detached this flagged subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13139936.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: assuming the factual part of your comment is true, it isn't really off topic in an already-highly-politicized thread. I was reacting to what seemed like an injection of partisan politics, but there seems to be a reasonable connection between the two subjects, so we've put this back. The bit about making comments more civil when topics are divisive is still important, so please be mindful of that.


> assuming the factual part of your comment is true, it isn't really off topic in an already-highly-politicized thread

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/us/politics/japanese-inter...

Is that a good enough source?


Key word: Proposal

I mean, yes, I agree that we're seeing some extremely worrying signaling from the coming US administration, but it's not actually happening right now... and it would hopefully be struck down by (at least) the Supreme Court. Notwithstanding that, it's extremely worrying that these things are actually popular ideas... which I suppose speaks towards "moral superiority", so point taken.


Aren't we still in political moratorium week? How does one flag a comment?


To flag a comment you click the timestamp, and then click the [flag] link. There's a small karma threshhold - you need about 30 karma to do so.


It was ended.


Clearly 'dang needs to remind people of this.


We're looking through all the comments that mention this and replying to all of them when other users haven't already.


take it to reddit


So.. going with camp 1 then, eh?


Is there any other camp? And does it matter?

The question asked was to this

"In a month or two, 475 dollars will look nice."


Until everything is given out for free with no ads, there will always be piracy. However, that would mean that there would be no way to pay for the content, so there's always a balance that needs to be struck.


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