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Helping people with ALS speak again seems worthy, as does helping humanity become a multi planetary species.

Is throwing up "1 million satellites" going to do those things?

How about running DOGE and gutting USAID?

Or helping Trump get elected? Was that a worthy endeavour? How's that working out for the average American (or anyone else on the planet) with four dollar gas and five dollar diesel?


Bringing satellite coverage to the world, including Iran and Ukraine is noble, yes.

As is volunteering to help get rid of waste and fraud, particularly when his time could be spent on more lucrative pursuits.

There are more things to life than the price of gas.


> Bringing satellite coverage to world, including Iran and Ukraine is noble, yes.

Are we including cutting off Ukraine’s coverage at keys times? Or Russian usage?

No need to discuss the DOGE bit, no one believes that trillion dollar saving was real.

‘Musk the Noble’ sure has a smell to it.


> cutting off Ukraine’s coverage at keys times?

The only 'key times' were Ukrainian military usage of Starlink inside Russia. Ukraine was given Starlink to use to defend Ukraine, not attack Russia.

> Or Russian usage?

Which was explicitly identified and cut off.

> No need to discuss the DOGE bit

Exactly. Nobody can defend fraud and abuse. Since your main issue is that the savings weren't as big as expected it sounds like you know that.


> The only 'key times' were Ukrainian military usage of Starlink inside Russia. Ukraine was given Starlink to use to defend Ukraine, not attack Russia.

Fighting without hurting the enemy? What’s the point? The approach of the Trump administration is just letting Ukraine bleed out.

Russian starlink usage has only just been cut off, how many years did that take?

> Nobody can defend fraud and abuse

This administration is anti-fraud and anti-abuse?


> Fighting without hurting the enemy?

No. Nobody said that except you.

> What’s the point?

Getting Russia out of the Ukraine.

> Russian starlink usage has only just been cut off

No. Russians have tried to use Starlink in late 2023 early 2024, there were no direct or indirect sales and terminals were disabled on a blacklist basis. They moved from a blacklist to a whitelist in February this year.

> This administration is anti-fraud and anti-abuse

In some ways, yes. I won't defend "Trump coin" but it's pretty clear with things like USAID, Minnesota child care center scams, and the California hospice scam the democrats were in favour of and participated in fraud and abuse.


> the Ukraine.

Correcting self: Ukraine.


> Bringing satellite coverage to the world, including Iran and Ukraine is noble, yes.

The general "world" is getting connectivity just fine via mobile phones for a lot less than what it would cost them to get a Starlink system.

Useful for the war in Ukraine, not so useful in Iran:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Internet_blackout_in_Iran...

> As is volunteering to help get rid of waste and fraud, particularly when his time could be spent on more lucrative pursuits.

When did he do this? Are you referring to (LOL) DOGE? Nothing like raising unemployment without saving any money:

* https://www.cato.org/blog/doge-produced-largest-peacetime-wo...

* https://fordschool.umich.edu/news/2025/reality-doges-mediocr...

And let's not start on all the illegal actions:

* https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/elon-musk-do...

Those (supposed) efficiency cuts in (e.g.) USAID have been estimated to have caused many tens of thousands of deaths:

* https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(25)01186-9/full...

* https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

And how much of the (alleged) money that was saved is now going towards the Iran war? The Pentagon is asking for $200B:

* https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2026/3/25/c...

> There are more things to life than the price of gas.

That is a very privileged view. In the US specifically, with its abysmal public transportation due to car-centric {ex,sub}urban design, a lot of people will need to pay more for getting to work and will have to cut back on (e.g.) groceries.

Globally, oil prices are wreaking havoc in all sorts of ways on daily life:

> Worsening fuel shortages resulting from the war in the Middle East are threatening sacred funeral ceremonies in Thailand, where Buddhist temples are scrambling to obtain diesel for cremations.

> The abbot of Wat Saman Rattanaram in Chachoengsao province, about 80km (50 miles) east of Bangkok, warned that a suspension of cremation services was a real possibility. Some petrol stations have run out of fuel, while others allow sales only to vehicle operators.

* https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/334692...


> Useful for the war in Ukraine, not so useful in Iran

Wikipedia isn't a source, but regardless Wikipedia confirms the utility of Starlink in the war.

> Are you referring to DOGE

Yes.

> without saving any money

Your source at Cato Institute confirm 150B.

> USAID have been estimated to have caused many tens of thousands of deaths

Lancet is a political advocacy magazine. USAID isn' an AID agency. Not funding gay and lesbian theatre in Serbia doesn't stop anyone from dying.

> much of the (alleged) money that was saved

You said zero money was saved earlier. What is it?

> is now going towards the Iran war?

It seems like a better investment than giving Iran 1.6 billion dollars to fund terrorism across the middle east, wouldn't you say?


> at least making the default much better by asking you every time they want to do something

Really? I thought 'asking you every time they want to do something' was called 'security fatigue' and generally considered to be a bad thing. Yes you can concatenate files in the current project, Claude.


Yes it has to be combined with a robust way to allowlist actions you trust

Oddly, since I wrote that Claude 'auto' mode just landed and I built something with it (instead of 'dangeously skip') and it's working.

> `fetch` is the official replacement for axios.

No. Axios is still maintained. They have not deprecated the project in favor of fetch.


I'm not saying that axios is unmaintained, I'm saying that if you want something like axios from the standard lib, fetch is the closest thing you get to official

Sure but Axios determine what the official replacement for Axios is.

It's not deprecated, it's obsoleted.

> Automation of dependency versions was never something we needed

How do you handle updating dependencies then?


That fetch requires so many users to rewrite the same code - that was already handled well by every existing node HTTP client- says something about the standards process.

It could also be trivially written for XMLHttpRequest or any node client if needed. Would be nice if they had always been the same, but oh well - having a server and client version isn't that bad.

Because it is so few lines it is much more sensible to have everyone duplicate that little snippet manually than import a library and write interceptors for that...

(Not only because the integration with the library would likely be more lines of code, but also because a library is a significantly liability on several levels that must be justified by significant, not minor, recurring savings.)


> Because it is so few lines it is much more sensible to have everyone duplicate that little snippet manually

Mine's about 100 LOC. There's a lot you can get wrong. Having a way to use a known working version and update that rather than adding a hundred potentially unnecessary lines of code is a good thing. https://github.com/mikemaccana/fetch-unfucked/blob/master/sr...

> import a library and write interceptors for that...

What you suggesting people would have to intercept? Just import a library you trust and use it.


Your wrapper does do a bunch of extra things that aren't necessary, but pulling in a library here is a far greater maintenance and security liability than writing those 100 lines of trivial code for the umpteenth time.

So yes you should just write and keep those lines. The fact that you haven't touched that file in 3 years is a great anecdotal indicator of how little maintenance such a wrapper requires, and so the primary reason for using a library is non-existent. Not like the fetch API changes in any notable way, nor does the needs of the app making API calls, and as long as the wrapper is slim it won't get in the way of an app changing its demands of fetch.

Now, if we were dealing with constantly changing lines, several hundred or even thousand lines, etc., then it would be a different story.


But you said so yourself they are necessary… otherwise you would just use fetch. This reasoning is going around in circles.

Why the 'but'? Where is the circular reasoning? What are you suggesting we have to intercept?

- Don't waste time rewriting and maintaining code unecessarily. Install a package and use it.

- Have a minimum release age.

I do not know what the issue is.


Give me a source that says Police Park was hit. AFAICT while the place exists, this story was made up.

Not complaining about moderation, but rather making a point that the site is genuinely going downhill - HN downmodded asking for a source for a major event to -3. There's not a single mainstream news outlet on https://www.google.com/search?q=Police+Park+iran that points to this location being attacked.

> This is intentional genocide

Do you think it's genocide when the IRGC kill 30-40K Persian civilians? Or only when Americans missiles aimed at a military base miss their target?


The school was located adjacent to (or on the border of) an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) naval compound/base. Evidence (satellite imagery, verified videos, missile fragments consistent with a US Tomahawk cruise missile, and geolocation) shows the area was targeted as part of strikes on that military site

> Within days, the question that organised the coverage was whether Claude, a chatbot made by Anthropic, had selected the school as a target.

Really? Everyone thought the US had *missed*.


This is how organizations like IRGC work. There is always a big campus like area where there is everything, including schools for indoctrination and new future recruits.

I don't. Plain text is typically formatted for 72-78 monospace characters - even if you don't want formatting, the text will look bad on any device that doesn't match IBM's 80-character punch cards from 1928.

In theory format=flowed solves that, but the same boomers that despise HTML mail also refuse to provide that accommodation, for anyone not behind a teletype.

Why would the CEO waste his wealth on reviving unnecessary jobs?

Why wouldn't he? Why isn't he invested in the stakeholders?

> "The downturn in Fortnite engagement that started in 2025 means we're spending significantly more than we're making"

He is - the stakeholders are his shareholders, who don't want him to run a loss, and to whom he is responsible.


In 1 phrase, the source of most evils in modern society.

A minority of people (shareholders) holding the majority of people (employees) at gunpoint.


They are working for money, not coerced with a gun pointing at them. They are free to leave as they please and often do.

The vast majority of people have to work in order to leave and for the same majority leaving employment is not easy and frequently not an option because they risk being unemployed for long periods of time. Or when they do leave the new place is even worse.

*in order to live

This statement is divorced from the reality of the situation and, frankly, sounds like it comes from a position of privilege. Most job markets are not like the software developer job market where we can just leave and expect to find gainful employment with better pay and better opportunities within a couple of weeks.

Isn't he responsible for this downturn?


Why keep the goose that lays the golden eggs alive when you can kill it and get all the golden eggs today?

Is that not an admission that his poor management and lack of vision cannot foresee any way to make profitable use of those people's labor?

A company raking in 5-6 billion per year can't find any profitable bets to make? Possibilities to invest in? All they can do is cut?

LOL. If you're that bad at capitalism then please resign and let someone else give it a try.

Reminds me of PG&E. So bad at being a for-profit electric company they need constant state handouts to guarantee profits. They made bad contracts so they need a PCIA fee for not selling me electricity. Hedging? Severing contracts? Arbitrage? Forecasting? Never heard of those, now make with the free coin! My son... if you are that bad at capitalism shut it down!

I agree with Warren Buffet's take here. A company that cuts or can only pump dividends is basically saying "we can't figure out how to make productive use of people and/or cash". What an unbelievable joke.


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