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Cultish (by Amanda Montell) is great. It also defines really well how Claude speaks currently---avant la lettre, of course. Language is a big part of the book: one example is how Scientologists can recognize each other in the wild from the language they have unknowingly adopted even for everyday conversations.


I’m native French speaker and do not understand what you mean with “avant la lettre”. That translates to “before the letter”, what do you mean?


> I’m native French speaker and do not understand what you mean with “avant la lettre”. That translates to “before the letter”, what do you mean?

Metaphorical language, of which French is a rich source, often prevents native speakers from understanding. Literal translations are of no avail.

> avant la lettre : before the letter : before the (specified) word or concept existed [0]

[0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/avant%20la%20lett...


TIL, I should have just googled it, I assumed it was a bad auto complete

Thanks!


As a non-French speaker, I had assumed a native speaker would suspect that this was another instance of English taking something from French and mangling it into something worse.


You could say e.g. Spinoza was a punk avant-la-lettre, he was a punk before the word "punk" even existed. I think GP is using it exactly opposite to the normal usage.


Ha. In my defense, it is a common phrase in Dutch culture!


I think they meant the same as the latin phrase "ante litteram"


If you really must have a counterexample, though I am afraid it will not reach you given your apparent stance about the other people, when I read Shakespeare I am constantly thinking of poetic ways to translate sentences and paragraphs into my native language (which, for the record, I consider to be great fun), yet Claude has been delivering the gibberish with increasing velocity, yes, even to me.

That said, I must confess that I have not been complaining per se—I assumed that Claude was getting better and better at mimicking the idiosyncrasies of Silicon Valley bro-speak. Judging from other comments, this may not seem to be the case after all.


It's a specific dialect of its own that comes from RL. Nobody on Earth talks about load-bearing honest caveat seams.

(Another strange thing about Opus 5 is that it will constantly re-mention things it thinks are important, probably a strategy to avoid losing them in the context history.)


"renal disappointment" yields even more papers, in all its awkwardness

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?&q=%22renal+disappointmen...



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