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watched this with teary eyes. it truly shows what we can do when we come together and challenge ourselves for the greater good of humanity.

A real bright spot compared to lately. The messages of positivity and comradery in the live stream were a nice contrast

(That being said, I can't believe they cut to people on the ground during SRB separation!)

edit: here's better footage from Everyday Astronaut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsSRRBMNoc&t=24512s


I completely agree on all points.

On your parenthetical point, I also agree: some really weird camera selections, and frustrating dropouts, during the crucial moments of the launch.

Nevertheless, a real triumph, and I particularly enjoyed the "full send" remark from (I think) the commander. I also really enjoy the fact that the livestream is relatively light on commentary and that most of what you hear is from mission control and the crew.


I was cussing at the director of that video stream during that. It was a totally useless shot as well that they lingered on that already had me bothered, and then to cut back to the SRBs fully separated had me in full contempt. Nothing to see here and everything to miss. It's like music videos showing the singer doing nothing while the guitarist is shredding a solo. Like WTF. You have one job, and you totally botched the hell out of it. You get what you pay for I guess. Lowest bidding contractor???

I couldn’t believe it when that happened. Intern at the controls maybe.

I took that to be the most dangerous part and they didn’t want to televise a Challenger II.

What happened to Challenger -- burn-through of a joint in the SRB motor casing -- happened well before scheduled SRB separation.

It was probably deemed a relatively high-risk moment which they did not want to broadcast in case of failure like it was when the Challenger mission exploded.

NASA had another feed that was just the view of the launch from Kennedy Space Center, no commentary. It was a few seconds ahead of the main broadcast, so it seems they already had a delay built in for the masses.

I certainly missed that one. Is it available somewhere recorded? If it is, can you please send a link to it? I'm sorry if I'm asking something stupid, it's just that I can't find anything like that and I also want to see this badly.

For some reason the Kennedy Center one is saying not available right now, but this was the link for it if it returns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJklsJonD4

The main broadcast is still up, with the ten minute countdown starting around 5 hours and 27 minutes into it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_UjBMIzNo


Still an odd choice. It is what it is. It’s a fairly risky mission and they chose to go ahead with that. Yet they avert their eyes, like a child watching a scary scene in a movie. Like it’s somehow ok to actually risk lives of four people, but not ok to televise that.

I tried watching his video and he is insufferable. I wish him well, glad he's enthusiastic, but this isn't a CS:GO final, it's one of the most widely watched rocket launches in 50 years. You do not need to be screaming at me in the final ten seconds about how the core stage is lit, over the actual professional saying core stage lit. You do not need to repeat to me that this is a momentous rocket launch twice at T-30.

As someone who has watched launches before, it is so much better when the broadcasters keep it mostly together, and know when to be silent for periods of time. He does not know how to do that.


Agreed! I yelled at the screen when I saw that they cut away.

I also loved the shot of stage separation, but they cut away from that way too soon also!


Same. I watched Apollo 11 launch in 1969 when I was four. Watched on our neighbor's TV. We didn't have one.

Imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't suck.


I’m not American. The Artemis launch feels to me like a beacon that the America the rest of us looked up to isn’t gone.

sending people to the moon was never useful. We can get more done with robots, both cheaper and safer. There are plenty of more useful things we can do instead.

okay what is more useful is a matter of opinion. you can disagree, but I stand by it


I've never understood this hyper-utilitarian perspective. It just seems divorced from what emotionally inspires most people.

Most of what people find inspiring doesn't directly provide a lot of objective utility, and is often quite dangerous for the individuals who choose to participate. Reaching the highest peaks in the last century, antarctic expeditions, pushing the limits of racing vehicles, attempting a sub two hour marathon, and athletes defining new tricks and styles in extreme sports are all objectively pretty useless in terms of their direct outputs -- and yet I find it all a whole lot more inspiring than my computer getting twice as fast, even if the latter is of way more objective utility to my life.

Min-maxing ROI in a spreadsheet just doesn't do it for me in the same way. There's absolutely a place for that and in a world of limited resources it should be how we spend most of our effort, and it is! The amount of money spent on efforts like this is _tiny_ at the scale of nations, and is certainly a much smaller and better use of funds than wars and corruption.


I also don't understand why people get their whole identity wrapped up in watching people play a kids game. (football, baseball...). Sure playing is fun, but watching someone else play

Getting people to the moon is plentry useful for getting an objective you can hang all kinds of useful advancements off.

Then you are wrong (and maybe MAGA? to ignore facts like that). An estimated three orders of magnitude of more science was done in the 12 days astronauts were on the moon than if robots had done those missions. HSF costs about, but it returns a lot of results as well.

>(and maybe MAGA? to ignore facts like that)

What an odd thing to bring up out of nowhere.


We didn't have robots in 1969, and the Apollo missions resulted in many of the technologies that make modern robotics (and robotic space missions) possible.

It may not be useful but we'll do it anyway. And then it may come to have utility.

> then it may come to have utility.

Maybe, but at what cost? What are we not getting/doing because we are doing this instead? This is of course an unanswerable question, but it is the correct response here - you are getting so focused on what this might gain that you forget that other things also have gains. Time is not unlimited, people who are working on space could work on something different instead, but they cannot do both.


That’s fair but the amount of interest in this crewed mission vs. prior uncrewed and robotic moon missions shows that many people find manned missions more compelling.

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I did. I designed an asic in the navigation avionics. I’m glad this inspires people to do the next thing.

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maybe because we now walk around with phones in our hands looking at screens. So when falling, we’re less prepared?


I know multiple people who worked / working at Mullvad and they take their business, security and privacy _very_ seriously. Not surprised to see them shine here.


Coincidentally, Mullvad, Windscribe and IVPN all worked when I was in China behind GFW, while more popular options did not.

Seems like there are VPNs, and then there are VPNs.


I'm a bit curious about how that works. I love Mullvad but routinely I find sites like Reddit completely block it. Even yesterday someone posted a Debian wiki link[0] and I was blocked. It's not all of them but Reddit is a big killer. So I thought China would block all of them (aren't they known?)

Fwiw I'm not switching from mullvad

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46252366


Use the Tor Onion Service [1] for Reddit instead. You never leave Tor so you don't have to deal with the usual exit node problems. No need for a commercial VPN.

[1]: https://www.reddittorjg6rue252oqsxryoxengawnmo46qy4kyii5wtqn...


Reddit blocks basically everything - since the 2023 API meltdown it's gone full 1984 censorship and opinion manipulation mode. There are two target audiences for Reddit: propagandists (who are given moderator status, even in subreddits they didn't create) and targets of propaganda (only if Reddit can verify their physical location). You're not in the first group and you don't want to be in the second.

The Tor service does not work. It's been unmaintained for years.


Yeah reddits weird because last I checked you can access it on TOR but not Mullvad ( though if you server hop enough you can usually slip through )


perhaps I shouldn't share my workaround, but I've found that Mullvad's Norway nodes consistently get past Reddit's IP-blocking :)


I use obscura—which routes through mullvad—and the reddit problem is very annoying.

I finally hit the point of searching for mirrors yesterday and turns out, they exist.[0]

It’s really only suitable for lurking or being able to view search results, but it has eased the pain a bit.

0: reddit-viewer.com


> It’s really only suitable for lurking

If you're not just lurking, log in and reddit doesn't block you.


I've found the "visit anonymously" functionality offered by Startpage gets around the problem in a pinch. It tends to break the site you're visiting a little, but masks your IP, allowing you access without shutting down your VPN.


How do other providers avoid this issue? Do they keep changing IPs or is the traffic that comes out of Mullvad worse in quality somehow?


I'd also like to know.

I'd also like to ask people not to block this way. It creates LOTS of false positives. There's much better ways to handle bots and this tactic seems particularly dumb for Reddit given they want users from places like China or elsewhere where a VPN might be required. Not to mention people using public WiFi. It's not like VPNs are uncommon these days.

If you must ban IPa then do so with a timeout and easing function. So that each hit results in a longer ban time. Bots want to move fast so even a few seconds ban time will make them switch IPs while not impacting most users (who will refresh)


From my experience, PIA VPN and Proton VPN also get blocked everywhere, from Reddit to captchas on Google Search.


PIA it’s one of the least trustworthy VPNs, highly recommend getting a different one.


They purchase residential traffic exit from botnets.


Any proof or articles you could link to backup that claim seems unlikely given their size/reputation also would be surprised they’d get blocked this often using botnet traffic


The person you're replying to is claiming that providers other than Mullvad avoid the being-blocked-by-reddit issue by using residential IPs.


While using mullvad reddit doesn’t block access if you’re signed in.

So, login without mullvad, turn it on after that and it should work.


The question is not "how do you make reddit work over mullvad".

The question is "if reddit can block mullvad why can't China".


There's a corollary to that question: why would China choose not to block Mullvad? We know every large nation with a capable online force maintains a fleet of ORBs, so maybe they consider Mullvad more useful for them as a functioning system?

Some of their own contractors may well depend on Mullvad. Perhaps as long as the overall "civilian" volume and user count remains acceptably low, the cost-benefit estimate may well be in favour of letting it slip by. (And for the civilians that do use a working variant, subject their connections to fine-grained traffic analysis.)


my current mullvad endpoint seems to be blocked by flathub (blocking package updates). nixos wiki is also blocked


It sort of worked for me, but it was very unreliable. I tried Proton and Astrill, both of which worked much better.

Mullvad is pretty good overall though.


When they wrote that 3 providers were honest about all locations I have to admit my first thought was "Mullvad, and who would the other two be?"

With their reputation and trackrecord they really can't do any shady tricks. Imagine if they weren't among the 3 honest providers? That would be HN frontpage news.


While I pay for Mullvad directly through my bank, their account number approach built a lot of trust for me. "Here's your number, use whatever to fund it. 5 euro a month, no sales."


At risk of sounding sale pitch'y. Mullvad is the only VPN the longer I use the more I like it. I've tried MANY competitors first and all the other ones so far seem to only get worse over time.

I love that I can pay directly with a crypto wallet and have true anonymity.


I do really wish they still provided port forwarding, I understand why they don't but that was really useful and the only competitors that seem to don't exactly seem trustworthy to me.


crypto is a public ledger. If someone wanted to find you, that's pretty easy target.


That depends how you obtained the crypto in the first place.

In any case, its certainly better than visa, but if you dont trust your vpn provider the real issue is they have your IP address and at best just a pinky-promise they dont log.


They can find your wallet, but if your wallet is not linked to you in an obvious way...


I went in on Monero (which Mullvad accepts for now...)the only early crypto that had a viable usage plan from the beginning. That was of course before I realized that crypto would of course just be turned into a massive scam wheelhouse and any coin with real utility value to challenge fiat currency would of course be regulated against. (not salt its still worth a lot)

I am aware most crypto is not anon without extra effort.


AFAIK transacting with Monero in the EU is now illegal, and the law is pretty explicit that this is because it's untraceable.


Not all digital currencies work that way.


They accept Monero too


Depending on crypto, and even on public ledger ones, there are ways to on-ramp cash to a new cold wallet.


For payments, a cold wallet affects only its security, never its transparency. When you pay from it, you expose an IP.


So what if i say.... use my Mullvad vpn to pay from cambodia or something.


if the on-ramp to the cold wallet was cash then what good is that transparency.


One can cycle it through an encryption or obfuscation layer with a no-log crypto foreign VPN. The layer can be LTC MWEB / Monero / Bitcoin Mixer, etc.


Can also mail cash. But you get a 10% discount only on crypto.

> We accept the following currencies: EUR, USD, GBP, SEK, NOK, CHF, CAD, AUD, NZD.

Not a bad way to get rid of some spare currency lying about that you’ll incur a fee to localize anyway.


I knew they were going to pass the test before I even clicked the article link.


Has anyone else from Europe noticed how Mullvad's speeds and latency have becoming worse and worse during peak times in the recent months? I now have to change servers regularly, which was never the case ~2 years ago.


It has certainly been wildly variable for me.


Windscribe and iVPN up there with Mullvad in TFA.

> Mullvad ... security and privacy _very_ seriously. Not surprised to see them shine here.

? TFA reflects on dishonest marketing on part of public VPN providers more than privacy / security.

That said, VPNs don't add much security, though, they are useful for geo unblocking content and (at some level) anti-censorship. In my experience, the mainstream public VPNs don't really match up to dedicated censorship-resistant networks run by Psiphon, Lantern, Tor (and possibly others).


Advertising a VPN endpoint in country A which in reality is in country B is a security concern for users trying to reduce their visibility to country B’s authorities. You’re right about the more fit to purpose tools, of course, but they’re more of an impediment to normal internet usage.


> Advertising a VPN endpoint in country A which in reality is in country B is a security concern for users trying to reduce their visibility to country B’s authorities.

Mullvad in their Terms of Service say they'll abide by Swedish and EU laws. This, among other things, means a VPN is in no way going to save your bacon from "authorities".


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Sadly, this is the 3rd time everything is down when we're about to go live.

It's great that pages are still being served - but we are currently blocked by not being able to access our dashboard, configuring / prepping for a launch.

And we are enterprise customers - and I am not finding a way to reach out to customer support since .. the site is down.


Is there anything specific needed that you can’t do via CLI?


If the api is down how will the cli that relies on the api work?


wrote a similar comment - good to know for the future.


Sorry but I would flag this as AI-generated unless you can provide a reference.


The user definitely is not AI but I think they may've misread something or fell for a meme/joke they saw.

There indeed is absolutely no planned sequel to or continuation of Andor, nor currently any known plans for the creator of it to create anything else in this franchise. I'd sure like it if he did, though.


I might indeed have fallen for something. I trusted an untrustworthy source. Sorry


it can only be a prequel unless they want to make a season out of Rogue One movie


@dang what happened to this post? It was at the top like 30 mins ago and now it seems shadow-banned.


It was flagged by community members and downweighted (correctly) by a moderator for being a dupe:

Whistleblower details how DOGE may have taken sensitive NLRB datahttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43691142

1139 points/7 days ago/528 comments


It's a separate writeup by a separate author though, and with 500+ comments, it still seems relevant. From #1 on HN to completely disappeared. Bring it back, I say.


On HN, dupeness is more a question of whether the underlying story is substantively the same or not—or, to put it slightly differently, whether the follow-up submission is able to support a substantively different discussion or not.

In this case, the answers appear to be yes, it's substantively the same story, and no, it can't support a substantively different discussion than the previous major thread. That's why we'd treat the follow-up submission as a dupe.

This is in no way passing judgment about the importance of the story! It's just that if we weren't careful and proactive about moderating HN in this way, the frontpage would rapidly fill up with variations on the hottest stories of the moment, and avoiding repetition is a core principle here (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...).

I wrote a long explanation about exactly this the other day—if you (or anyone) is willing to take a look at that (assuming you have the stamina) and still have a question that isn't already answered there, I'd be happy to take a crack at it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815.

p.s. The current case is unfortunate because the follow-up/duplicate post came a week later than the original thread. If it were hours later, or a day or two later, as is more typical, we would merge the threads and in this way avoid a split discussion. But 7 days is too wide a chasm to merge across.


I suppose it's just a bit frustrating that HN is one of the few places left on the internet where we can have a mostly civilized discussion about politics. I had missed the discussion from 7 days ago so this was news to me (and I'm sure most of the other commenters). If you miss the one chance to discuss that one topic, it can never be discussed again on HN.

I'm not opposed to this rule for moderation, and I understand the reasoning behind it. But it seems like we're just watching the country burn and when stories like this get suppressed to make room for a new rust package manager, it makes me all nihilistic.

/rant


As one who shares your frustrations: working with the HN system, and pushing back where you feel it's appropriate, are both productive.

Dang (and earlier pg and sctb, and now I suspect tomhow) often express frustrations with the HN community's collective behaviour (a recent example: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477305>). A key consideration is the fragility of the community and service itself (socially, not technically), as evidenced by, say, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23047709>, and even more revealingly here: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22805993>.

Your argument is likely not with their beliefs or preferences, but the embodied practices of HN moderation. Which can themselves be problematic as they have a strong status quo bias, as I've pointed out repeatedly:

<https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...>.

Which often manifests as tone policing, as again I've commented (some overlap with above search):

<https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...>

Consider reversing that bias a hacking challenge.


For what it's worth: if it's one of the few places you can still have a civilized discussion about politics, that's at least in part because we don't talk about politics very often here. Every time we do, some of the civility of the site chips away. Since the whole premise of the site is to investigate how long we can stave off Eternal September, this seems an important consideration.


> it can never be discussed again on HN

For sure it can, if and when significant new information arises. That's the main point of the principles outlined at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815.

But yes, I hear you and I know it's frustrating. There's no important topic that HN really does justice to.


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