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In my opinion, the “code is garbage” argument is a moot point. Anthropic is in the business of removing humans from the SDLC. As long as their models can understand and update the code they generate it can remain garbage. They’re not optimizing for human comprehension of the output. They don’t even want you looking at it. And eventually the models will get good enough that you won’t have to.

It doesn't seem like they're optimizing for stable, working software either, nor, apparently, a stable, working release workflow.

LOL, very true.

Will there be any built releases available?


Yes, though it’s still early days. You can install it from crates.io with cargo install horizon-ui or grab a prebuilt binary from https://github.com/peters/horizon/releases/tag/untagged-0e65...

Each commit to main also produces downloadable unsigned binaries in the GitHub Actions tab.



How do escalations work for statphone? If the first group doesn't respond to the call, does it escalate to the second group while the call is in progress still? What happens if the caller hangs up? Very cool idea btw!


Hi!

If the first group doesn't pick up, it starts calling the second group, but first group continues to ring.

If the caller hangs up, all ringing is stopped.

The cool thing is if it encounters the native phone's voicemail, it hangs up and continues to ring so doesn't think it was a picked up call.

We do have our own voicemail that will eventually answer (user defined timing), which then transcribes and sends the voicemail+transcription to all the group members.


I remember going to school for computer science back in 2004 and literally everyone around me thought I was an idiot. I worked a part time shift at a grocery store and 2 of my coworkers were CS grads without any job offers. Then in 2008 I graduated and the financial market collapsed. My first real programming job paid less than my grocery store job but I was happy I had my foot in the door. I don't remember when the market picked up but I don't think the layoffs were as drawn out as they are today. At least back than you kinda new why everyone was on a hiring freeze. Today there are so many economic factors and a massively disrupting technology that it feels messier than ever before.


Why did they think you were an idiot? I graduated in 2004 and I don't recall anyone thinking a CS degree was a bad idea.


Perhaps your experience varied with zip code, but in the area where I lived at the time, the perception was that software industry was in a decline and acquiring a degree in the field seemed like a dubious bet. Maybe the sentiment was different if you were in the Bay area.


I was in the UK. The effects of the dot com bubble did extend there but I think we had a very different view on it.


The dot-com bubble/crash had just happened and a lot of non-tech folks thought it would never come back. I remember telling my uncle I was going to intern at Amazon around 2005/6 and him asking me in all seriousness, "aren't they bankrupt?"


> Founder @DataTalksClub | Teaching engineers to build production AI systems | AI agents, LLMs, ML, data engineering | 100,000+ learners

Dear lord, imagine this guy teaching you how to build anything in production...


What's a good value for a used MacBook pro these days? Any of the older models worth buying today?


It's hard to find any fault with the M1 models released 5 years ago. According to second-hand listings on Swappa, US$1200 would get you a capable M1 Max; the equivalent M5 Max is US$3600.


I think I've seen 2 initiatives to move off of AS/400 to a something else in my lifetime and neither one completed. One was at a bank another at an insurance company. Not to mention that a typical COBOL programmer is more interested in retiring than learning to vibe code. At this point I think the software stocks have reached peak panic and hysteria. There is just no rhyme or reason for sharp declines like this.


I've seen a successful one where COBOL was converted to ".Net" and heard they were applying the same process to another client a few years ago.

I think this is a game changer for trying to migrate secondary services like tools or batch jobs


There are a few tools to compile COBOL code to .NET without needing to rewrite in a different programming language.


This is the first thing that occurred to me. The people above suggesting a cobol to python or go update confuse the heck out of me. Why not just convert to vanilla jacascript at that point? Bizarre


You usually want a language that provides compile-time check and you already use and know.


It does seem like a good time to buy IBM stock.


Yeah it’s exhausting. Part of me wants the bubble to pop but another part realizes a lot of my stock is now tied up in it lol


I never understood why we have public schools but not public kindergartens.


Everywhere I have ever lived in the U.S. has had public Kindergarten. I assume this is probably a regional difference in terms, though? In the U.S. Kindergarten is just the grade before 1st grade. Any schooling/day care before that is usually called "preschool" and is often funded to some extent at the state level but if so is usually limited only to low income individuals.


Every engineering org should be pleading devs to not let AI write tests. They're awful and sometimes they literally don't even assert the code that was generated and instead assert the code in tests.


Every engineering org should be pleading devs to not let AI write code, period. They continue to routinely get stuff wrong and can't be trusted any further than you can throw them.


Does anyone remember how cloud prices used to trend down? That was about 6 years ago and then seemingly after the pandemic everything started going the other way.


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