> an engineer at Spotify on their morning commute from Slack on their cell phone can tell Claude to fix a bug or add a new feature to the iOS app [...] so that he can then merge it to production, all before they even arrive at the office.
It's so dystopian to boost about your team pushing to production on their commute because that means:
1. The engineers are forced to work from office for no reason apparently.
2. The engineers are working outside work hours. Are they compensated for that?
Most people reading the article would get the impression that the developers are no longer needed and you can just tell Claude the feature you need directly, but why are the engineers at Spotify's still employed then? It seems Spotify's shareholders should confront the co-CEO, Söderström, about wasting tremendous resources when AI is so good and doing all the heavy lifting. Unless he is bullshitting a little too much.
They take the data and deal with the consequences later because there's none so far. I hope data poisoning see more traction as a possible countermeasure.
What changed from last year? The deal that failed?
The article says:
> The price tag is much higher than the roughly $23 billion Google had offered for Wiz last year before antitrust worries forced the startup to shelve the deal.
> Wall Street is optimistic that the Trump administration would drop some antitrust policies
Is that it? It's crazy to announce the deal before there's any actual policy changes. Why the rush? It's not like someone is outbidding them here.
> The price tag is much higher than the roughly $23 billion Google had offered for Wiz last year before antitrust worries forced the startup to shelve the deal. ... A harsh regulatory environment in 2024 had made it difficult for many firms to push through large deals, but Wall Street is optimistic that the Trump administration would drop some antitrust policies.
> false. Hannibal directive has nothing to do with hostages
Weird, The IDF says it's indeed about kidnapped hostages: [1]
> the General Staff Directive for Contending with Kidnapping Attempts (also known as the "Hannibal" Directive) was initiated, meaning a number of actions necessary to locate and rescue kidnapped soldiers were put into effect.
Why would you even try to lie about its purpose when it's well known and documented?
I did. There was no reports on anything like that in the past few days. That's why I'm asking, what's there to LOL about? Or was the comment a joke that they can't fire or something? I'm confused
> some land was made available to the Native Americans to build their own sovereign nation, you would be against that ?
You know that would have been great. But who are the native Americans in your example? Majority of Zionists that established Israel and their groups arrived by ships from Europe. Wouldn't that more resemble England and Spain colonization expeditions in your example? Weird.. like the story almost matches exactly to the how colonies were established
Such an ironic example to give voluntarily.
Let's take a look at the background of Israel's founding fathers and where did they came from:
- David Ben-Gurion - Poland
- Aharon Zisling - Belarus
- David Remez - Russia
- Pinchas Rosen - Germany
- Moshe Sharett - Ukraine
- Haim-Moshe Shapira - Belarus
- Yehuda Leib Maimon - Moldova
- Mordechai Bentov - Russia
- ...
Case in point, most weren't natives who lived there under "apartheid" but actually left Europe looking for a new land, backed by... England and the US (Sorry Spain, not this time).
If you're struggling to use the real events in history and have to resort to a "hypothesis", it's a sign something is off and you're twisting history a bit too much. At least make sure it's not ironic, next time.
If you were a European Jew in the late 1940s after the fall of the Nazis, you were still faced with the prospect of living under the local governance of Nazi collaborators, continued pogroms [0] and antisemitism, and potentially Joseph Stalin's USSR. It's not like everything immediately went back to normal, either in real terms or psychological ones. Even if you survived your friends, family and neighbors are GONE.
It's unsurprising that many wouldn't want to reintegrate with that society after what they experienced, even if they managed to avoid the camps (and especially if they didn't).
It is ridiculous to just throw them into the same category with the English and Spanish colonists searching for riches in the New World.
Migrating to Palestine and living in that land is not an issue in itself. I wish them prosperity much like everyone else. The problem is the crimes that were committed by the Zionist militias such as Irgun who were viewed as terrorists orgs even under UK mandate, in additions to the settlements and establishing an apartheid state later:
1. Kicking millions of Palestinians out of their homes and villages and building illegal settlements
2. Massacres committed with no accountability (soldiers posing and documenting it, not fog of war)
Both of these practices are STILL ONGOING and have been for almost a century.
Then regular civilians come from all over the world to live in those illegal settlements and justify it or claim they have nothing to do with the atrocities when they're a major support for it and why the suffering continues.
Many more problems were results of Israel being built on ethno-religious foundations:
3. Giving refuge to pedophiles (wanted by US and INTERPOL) because they're Jewish? WTF? [1]
4. The recent rape and sexual harassment of prisoners [2]. Israeli protestors went to the streets and even rioted to defend the soldiers accused of it and were proud of their actions. Tell me how should I feel when I see them doing that?
5. The attack on World Central Kitchen convoy? [3] Killing 7 aid workers in multiple clearly marked vehicles on a coordinated mission with the IDF. What came of it? They just laid off a couple of people like the commander Nochi Mandel who oversaw the attack. The same commander signed an open letter to block humanitarian aid. So what is the punishment for killing 7 innocent aid workers? You move to the private sector it seems with higher pay grade.
Fuck me! Any group that commit such crimes and act proud with no shame are lunatics and should be held accountable but this doesn't seem to happen in Israel. Even the citizens seem to take pride in it. [4]
My problem isn't with specific group. I'm referring to Israel as a state. I don't care about the religion of its people or what land they live on as long it's lawful and they're no committing war crimes. I'd feel the same about crimes in Ukraine, Afghanistan, or Africa.
There is nothing made up about 1200 years of oppression by an empire that was built on conquest, numerous forms of slavers, ethnic cleaning, and genocide.
This is not something that happened thousands of years ago, it ended 100 years ago, and is directly relevant to what is going on today.
The fact that some of the founders of Israel were the descendants of those who fled their native lands due to oppression does not change anything, any more than Palestinians who are born in different countries would no longer have ties to their homeland in the Middle East.
And yes, I firmly believe that the Palestinians have a right to a country of their own, but not at the cost of eliminating Israel and imposing sharia law
> The fact that some of the founders of Israel were the descendants of those who fled their native lands
Only some founders were foreigners? Do you want the full list? Literally none, 0%, were "native", born in the region or anywhere near it, here's the full list of people who signed it and where they came from:
- David Ben-Gurion (Poland)
- Daniel Auster (Ukraine)
- Yitzhak Ben-Zvi (Ukraine)
- Mordechai Bentov (Poland)
- Eliyahu Berligne (Belarus)
- Fritz Bernstein (Germany)
- Rachel Cohen-Kagan (Ukraine)
- Eliyahu Dobkin (Belarus)
- Yehuda Leib Fishman (Moldova)
- Wolf Gold (Poland)
- Meir Grabovsky (Moldova)
- Avraham Granovsky (Moldova)
- Yitzhak Gruenbaum (Poland)
- Kalman Kahana (Poland)
- Eliezer Kaplan (Belarus)
- Avraham Katznelson (Belarus)
- Saadia Kobashi (Yemen)
- Moshe Kolodny (Belarus)
- Yitzhak-Meir Levin (Poland)
- Meir David Loewenstein (Denmark)
- Zvi Luria (Poland)
- Golda Meyerson (Ukraine)
- Nahum Nir (Poland)
- David-Zvi Pinkas (Hungary)
- Felix Rosenblueth (aka Pinchas Rosen) (Germany)
- David Remez (Belarus)
- Berl Repetur (Ukraine)
- Zvi Segal (Poland)
- Mordechai Shatner (Ukraine)
- Ben-Zion Sternberg (Ukraine)
- Bechor-Shalom Sheetrit (Morocco)
- Haim-Moshe Shapira (Belarus)
- Moshe Shertok (Ukraine)
- Herzl Vardi (Lithuania)
- Meir Vilner (Lithuania)
- Zerach Warhaftig (Belarus)
- Aharon Zisling (Belarus)
37 signatories, and not a single one were from that land or had any clear links to it whatsoever. You act like it was to protect the locals but not a single one was present? How much clearer do you want to it to be? It was a land grab from the very beginning
> The land claims of the territory both come from the Torah, in the end. Its just that the Jews and Muslims disagree on who God was referring to.
What? Palestinians don't claim the land based on a promise by God. They claim it because they hold the legal documents going back for centuries. Even those expelled in 1948, still have the fucking keys covered with their grandparents blood after the Nakba ethnic cleansing.
You know what? let's forget about legal documents, about who is native to the land by DNA, since it's you know "complicated", right?
1. Zionists today (not a story in the past) continue to put outposts in Palestinians farms to snatch more and more land.
2. Israeli troops and settlers killed 171 Palestinian children in the west bank (an area smaller than Delaware) in 2024 alone [1].
3. They continue building illegal settlements on Palestinians land that's illegal even by US admission.
4. Israel is taking advantage of the power vacuum in Syria and advancing deeper inside Syria borders while taking more and more cities. It's literally provoking and asking for another war where they will claim they were victims.
5. The blood of tens of thousands of civilians in Gaza is still fresh [2] and more crimes in the past with no one held accountable, soldiers are literally posing and filming their war crimes with no accountability. Many humanitarian orgs believe the number of those killed is actually undercounted as many are still undocumented.
They celebrates killing babies (who they claim will be terrorists of course) so soldiers are praised and incentivized to annex entire blood line like savages.
Here's a challenge for you: Emit labels like "Palestinians" and "Israelis" and ask someone with no prejudice, hearing it for the first time, "who is in the wrong?" If you are honest and not manipulative you'll get your answer.
But nah let's stick to the theory that the entire world is against us and respond to any other theory that it's "complicated" while continue committing war crimes openly admitted by our soldiers ever since Israel was established.[3]
Do you agree that everyone who was involved in war crimes to be held responsible, no matter what ethnicity, religion, or passport they hold? That is the core of the problem, Israeli have done more terrible things than the side they claim as terrorists.
> my concern is more that she'll be implicitly competing with classmates that are using tools like this, whether we allow her to use them or not.
What makes this different from competing with classmates that cheat in general? You also had parents that do most of the tasks for their kids since forever
What makes LLMs stands out of the pack of other forms of assistance (parents, older siblings, software, online solutions, etc.)
Cheating (at least when I was school age) was fairly rare and not terribly difficult to detect. My concern is that both of those might be false with LLMs, and that'd make the circumstances different.
The author of a library has lost all control over the codebase, and a third party is now making changes to it. That's pretty much the textbook definition of stage one of a supply chain attack.
Considering what Matt has already done, it wouldn't even remotely come as a surprise if a future ACF update would, say, brick all WP installations using ACF on a WP Engine host.
> bank starts fiddling with the numbers in your account
If a bank messes with your money, you ask for your money when that happens. Not defame the bank based that they updated their database, business as usual, but you liked the old one.
how exactly did they mess with your stuff? where's the attack you're speaking about? where's physical harm?
Users will no longer have security updates from the actual makers, and the team that specializes and has built it is not able to touch the code (unless you use theirs)
Injecting code that creates misleading or malicious dashboard warnings is a supply chain attack, even if it’s the intent of the supplier and not a malicious third party interfering with the supply chain.
One of Matt's complaints was that WPE disabled revisions...which JetPack (owned by Automattic) suggests to do in order to improve performance. https://jetpack.com/blog/wordpress-revisions/
I ran servers for an agency with ~1200 WordPress installs on Azure VMs, and I disabled revisions on every one of the sites. How is that different? Did I fiddle too much, despite it being in official documentation on how to do so? Even despite it being actually recommended by Automattic itself for performance improvements? Many of his complaints don't add up. The copyright and WP confusion, I get...but the rest is largely non-sense. Even his Stripe/Woocommerce complaint is largely bunk.
The best outcome is for Matt to step down, Wordpress.org/WP Foundation gets sold to multiple hosting providers (WordPress.com, WPE, 1&1, GoDaddy, etc) and they all commit x amount of money to the project (given it is a very important platform for all of them) and in exchange WPE drops its suit. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen, because some of this seems very ego driven.
It's not new, Matt has been trying to reach an agreement for years.[1] To be fair, he has done everything he can for the health of the ecosystem for all these years.
WP Engine leech off the WordPress brand from head to toe. Literally, from trademark to infrastructure, while Automattic covers the bill for the most part.
Of course, legally, WPE doesn't have to contribute beyond its mouth but if we are going down that route then also Automattic doesn't have to put up with funding WPE operation anymore.
I'm tired of people justifying WPE attitude and behavior by saying "legally, they don't have to contribute", well let's talk legal, everything happening to them is within those same lines too. Why are you complaining if it's legal?
This is one of those "fuck around and find out" situation. Matt just run out of fucks to give, and decided it's better to teach the bully a lesson even if it comes at a cost.
You're citing Matt but Matt has been proven to be untrustworthy. For example, his claim of many year long negotiations includes a claim that he had delivered a term sheet to WP Engine in May, but that claim was disproven by himself, no such term sheet was delivered. Additionally, the contributions that he counts from WP Engine are only those included in the "Five for the Future" program which Matt administrates. The actual contributions of WP Engine to the ecosystem include millions of dollars per year on event sponsorship, plugin development (WPGraphQL, ACF) and more.
Read the lawsuit filed by WP Engine. No such negotiations existed. Matt has been arguing with WP Engine in his head. You may believe WP Engine's contributions to WordPress are disproportionately small for their size but make that argument on the basis of accurate information, not the fiction from Matt.
Nobody likes WP Engine but Matt's lying has been so problematic that it is impossible to take his side unless you believe that integrity is optional.
> millions of dollars per year on event sponsorship
Are you for real? Event sponsorship is part of the marketing budget. They're there to promote their company among competitors. It's a universal business expense.
> plugin development ACF
ACF is their own asset
I mentioned this in my comment, they don't contribute significantly beyond their mouth. What you came with are just the receipts for what I said.
And Automattic's control over WordPress is part of their "marketing" budget. Let's not forget how valuable the exclusive commercial license for the WordPress trademark is to Automattic, their ability to use the WordPress.com domain has huge commercial value to them. I have no doubt that WP Engine would pay tens of millions of dollars per year for the exclusive commercial license to the WordPress trademark which is tens of millions that could be funnelled to the WordPress Foundation, which is tens of millions more than Automattic spend. Ask yourself how Matt justifies Automattic spending millions of dollars per year on hosting WordPress.org and millions of dollars on the 100+ staff Automattic have working on WordPress.org.
We can't pick and choose which contributions are valid and which aren't. WP Engine spend money on the development of WPGraphQL a free plugin, WP Engine spend money on the development of Advanced Custom Fields which they release for free for millions of WordPress sites to use... of course they're not doing that out of some altruistic moral crusade, of course it's a clear calculus about the benefit to their bottom line, but that doesn't change that they're contributing.
The "Five for the Future" contributions are specifically about contributing to WordPress Core, which is owned and controlled by Matt Mullenweg: you're playing into Matt's absurd narrative that the only valid contribution is one that is made to something under Matt's control.
I think WP Engine are Private Equity leeches, I have zero doubt about that, I wish that they were to contribute more but that's the deal with Open Source software, that's what we choose to allow by releasing Open Source software. The moral obligation we have when we use Open Source software is to respect the license, Matt had the choice about the license to release WordPress under, he made the choice for it to be GPL.
dhh is more eloquent and authoritative than I, read these if you need further convincing:
> Let's not forget how valuable the exclusive commercial license for the WordPress trademark is to Automattic, their ability to use the WordPress.com domain has huge commercial value to them.
In the discussion for this post alone, we have commenters with no idea that WordPress can be self-hosted, or that dot com has a free plan.
That's skimming the top for how confused a non-HN-reading layperson could be at the whole project.
> The "Five for the Future" contributions are specifically about contributing to WordPress Core, which is owned and controlled by Matt Mullenweg
And? It is the backbone that powers their entire business. You're acting like they're being asked to contribute to something they don't use. That should be the bare minimum. Even business wise it make sense to contribute to it and help make it better. It's absurd we're even having this discussion.
You're also inconsistent. You claim something is fine because it's legal (the license doesn't ask for more as a condition) but you condemn the other party reaction on a different grounds? I thought everything you can get away with, legally, is OK. Matt has barely scratched the surface of what's within his power to do in response.
WP Engine are a Private Equity owned for-profit corporation who exist solely to hoover up as much revenue as possible, consequence be damned, that's Private Equity. Matt Mullenweg is an individual who professes to be an open-source software for-the-greater-good moral crusader. I hold them to very different standards. Matt has to behave according to his professed principles otherwise they're not his principles, they're just a mask.
I release Open Source software under a permissive license: if I leverage my control over that software to harm the consumers of my software that I believe are taking without giving, then I am far worse than a leech.
Regarding "WordPress Core": if WordPress Core is all that matters, why are plugins fundamental to WordPress? Why do millions of WordPress websites use Advanced Custom Fields?
You've repeated a bunch of Matt's lies, either you're uninformed or not impartial. The latter cannot be addressed, the former can. Read more, speak less.
Everyone should be held to the same standards. If my professed principle was to be evil, then would you judge me negatively if I acted good?
I release software under a permissive license too. But I understand the only reason I'm able to do it, is because companies like Google and Mozilla believe in supporting people like me. There's this unwritten rule that the most successful people in our society should be philanthropic, because they're the only ones who can. However nothing formally requires this.
It's similar to how a company might officially give you unlimited vacation days. Imagine if one person tests that rule, and makes every day a vacation day. It would probably take years before someone tries that, but once someone actually does, the rules are going to quickly change for everyone and you might end up with a lot less freedom than before.
WPEngine has certainly tested the limits of the open source gift economy and the way Automattic is reacting isn't helping either. It's a sad thing to witness.
I don't think WPEngine is a fox. I think it's more like a factory farm moves in next door and sells your customers eggs at a lower price, because it keeps more hens cramped in metal cages. So eventually your family farm has to close its hen house and all your hens end up at the factory farm.
Matt isn't being held to a higher standard, he's being held to a different standard, a standard he chose.
WP Engine is a company that chose to build a business around a piece of software released under a license that permits their commercialisation of the software.
Matt is an individual who chose to release software under a license that permits companies to build a business around the software and has then chosen to initiate a "nuclear war" against one of those companies who is complying with the license he chose to release the software under because they are not contributing to the software in a way that he deems acceptable.
They're fundamentally different actors in fundamentally different positions. WP Engine has behaved exactly as one would expect from the start. Matt has behaved in a way that suggests he has lost his damn mind, doing everything in his power to harm a business that is complying with the license he chose.
I don't disagree with the idea that WP Engine should contribute more, I don't disagree that Private Equity is harmful to Open Source, but I fundamentally disagree with Matt's weaponisation of Open Source to make a point. There is a lot of great prior thinking on this subject[1], Matt has many options, he is making the choice to behave in this way, it is not a foregone conclusion.
Our discussion isn't going to lead anywhere, but we can revisit it in a month when Matt's downward spiral has resulted in the inevitable. Perhaps, at that point, you'll reflect on whether Matt's behaviour was worth supporting.
You don't see the non-premium version of ACF as contributing? I'm curious, why not?
WPE has other employees dedicated to WP and The Community. I'm not defending WPE but just because they don't contribute in a way MM wants doesn't mean they don't contribute. Suggesting they're not contributing is disingenuous.
Matt is not a dictator. Oh wait, scratch that.
p.s. Matt should be careful what he wishes for. If WPE or anyone contributes they're going to want a voice, a seat at the table. Is Matt willing to share control? If the answer is no, then that is the root problem here.
So if I go successfully make a feature addition to ie Kubernetes, or the Linux kernel, and it is exclusively motivated by furthering my business needs instead of altruism, but happens to incidentally benefit others too - do you consider that a "contribution" under your mental model? If not, what's the distinction?
> make a feature addition to ie Kubernetes, or the Linux kernel
In your example, you're contributing to other people projects so yes it would be contribution right of the bat. That's completely different than the case with ACF.
And WPEngine does not own Wordpress or its ecosystem, right? So that's also "other people's projects" if they produce something of value to its ends users?
> if they produce something of value to its ends users?
No, that's would be their value proposition or what every company on earth have been doing since inception, filling a gap in the market.
You seem to be claiming that their mere existence in the ecosystem would be a contribution, even if they were closed source. They would be providing value and attracting users in a butterfly effect style. Sure, that help and have a positive impact but is it a contribution to an open source project and the ecosystem?
My model is fairly simple, you can't claim credit for something if you did it involuntarily or with a different intention or it happened as n-level side effect of what you are trying to do.
And what makes Automattic's contributions any different? They "steer" the product to their benefit and sell that as what's good for them is good for all.
That's rubbish.
It's not contributing to "the cause" when the features you add are solely for your own benefit. Not that self-serving is wrong. But to sell it as benevolent red lines any decent bullshit detector.
Matt defined the license. Now he regrets that and he wants a cut. Nuttin wrong with that. But to sell it otherwise is shite. We're not that stupid.
- And the list goes on: contributing and sponsoring many projects and developers that everyone using the web benefited from, including you and billions of people (not counting wordpress's impact)
Please educate yourself before spreading FUD about people who made great contributions constantly to the open web, the entire industry, and promoted open source on every chance they got.
You left out Matt & Co partnering with privacy-crusher Google, and other "f*k the users this partnership is good for Automattic and my pockets" deals and decisions. And what about his anti-accessibility transgressions (with Gutenberg).
Matt championing himself as benevolent and using OSS as a shield is BS. No one is expecting him - or anyone - to be perfect. But he and his hypocrisy has jumped the shark.
There are well-established legal processes for resolving issues like trademark infringement. This dispute could have, and should have, been resolved without involving… literally everyone.
This sounds like dictator speak. "Tolerated" by who? The community embraced them, it's matt and his private-equity-associated, for-profit corporation that didn't like their success.
Should matt have such a veto power over what the community wants? Put another way, the community has tolerated matt's behavior, but he keeps digging more and more – how do we stop his bad behavior?
Why should we place a cutoff? We can discuss his behavior as of late, as well: Matt saw a successful corporation using wordpress, just like his own, and demanded that they give his own for-profit corporation a large chunk of their revenue. When they declined his request, matt started fabricating all these gripes about private equity and contribution level.
It's quite telling that we don't see matt attacking less successful companies which do the same thing as WPEngine, much less putting forth the same pretexts for it.
Should matt have such a veto power over what the community wants? Put another way, the community has tolerated matt's behavior, but he keeps digging more and more – how do we stop his bad behavior?
And back to the first question: "tolerated" by who? The community embraced WPEngine and their contributions to the community. It's matt that the community can't tolerate.
> saw a successful corporation using wordpress, just like his own
That's hilarious because Matt and Automattic actually invested in WP Engine, supported them in many ways ever since their inception and helped them be more successful and reach this level.
Your entire argument about "jealous of success" falls apart if you look only few months back. He wanted them to succeed for years and years, even after private equity, he still saw them as partners.
None of that makes the "entire argument fall apart". Sounds like he regrets doing that.
The argument that matt is doing this for the community, though, totally falls apart when we see that he is actively harming community members, and the argument that he's doing it for open source totally falls apart when we see that he tried to extort WPEngine for money into his own pocket before contriving the aforementioned pretexts.
Why just WPEngine? It seems because they're successful and he's jealous of their money (hence demanding they give it to him, and not the community).
Should matt have such a veto power over what the community wants? Put another way, the community has tolerated matt's behavior, but he keeps digging more and more – how do we stop his bad behavior?
And back to the first question: "tolerated" by who? The community embraced WPEngine and their contributions to the community. It's matt that the community can't tolerate.
Yes, it is. He demanded WPEngine pay 8% of revenues to Automattic. Not to the community. To Automattic: matt's private, for-profit corporation. The one matt runs along with a private equity friend of his. The one matt likely owns much of, too. The one matt named after himself.
Also, please stop ignoring the questions posed to you:
Should matt have such a veto power over what the community wants? Put another way, the community has tolerated matt's behavior, but he keeps digging more and more – how do we stop his bad behavior?
And back to the first question: "tolerated" by who? The community embraced WPEngine and their contributions to the community. It's matt that the community can't tolerate.
I answered what I can but here let me put your mind at rest:
> Should matt have such a veto power over what the community wants? Put another way, the community has tolerated matt's behavior, but he keeps digging more and more – how do we stop his bad behavior?
Am I sitting on some regulatory board? What this got to do with me? if I had to propose anything it'd be form a board from all major contributors to solve this conflict and reach a resolution
> "tolerated" by who? The community embraced WPEngine and their contributions to the community. It's matt that the community can't tolerate.
No, Matt supported and invested in them for years, before you and "the community" even heard about them. He was the one there from the very beginning.
> Am I sitting on some regulatory board? What this got to do with me
Well, I asked a simple question: Should matt have such a veto power over what the community wants? What do you think? Should he?
> if I had to propose anything it'd be form a board from all major contributors to solve this conflict
Ignoring for a moment that matt is banning contributors, rather than caring what they want: What about what the wordpress community wants? They are the most important and most numerous stakeholders here.
> No, Matt not only embraced them, he supported and invested in them for years, before you and "the community" even heard about them. He was the one there from the very beginning.
No, the community has embraced WPEngine and their contributions to the community and to Automattic's success. So who specifically are you speaking of, who merely "tolerated" WPEngine?
> It's quite telling that we don't see matt attacking less successful companies which do the same thing as WPEngine, much less putting forth the same pretexts for it.
If he succeeds with WP Engine, then he'll probably shake down other companies in the future.
Some folks on this list spewing out misinformation, perhaps because of personal interests in WPE. Matt has done more than any of us to create and preserve an amazing open-source ecosystem that we all benefit from. Can you imagine what it would be like if WPE controlled WP?
The claims in WPE's lawsuit, as you'll see, are not facts.
You sound like those armchair communists who feel they need to agree with Stalin because he was a communist too. You know, a person doing evil things for the right reasons is still doing evil things.
You got the wrong idea. What I care about is open source and fight back against those encouraging to take without contributing. Yes you don't have to give back, the same way you don't have to be nice, but promoting that you intentionally commit NOT to contribute and wear that badge proudly is stupid and harmful.
I don't care about specific individual or technology since I don't use WordPress and I'm not in that business to begin with but these discussions are spreading the wrong message and values.
Please make sure you're contributing to the discussion in the future, not just attacking people based on your limited view.
It's so dystopian to boost about your team pushing to production on their commute because that means:
1. The engineers are forced to work from office for no reason apparently.
2. The engineers are working outside work hours. Are they compensated for that?
Most people reading the article would get the impression that the developers are no longer needed and you can just tell Claude the feature you need directly, but why are the engineers at Spotify's still employed then? It seems Spotify's shareholders should confront the co-CEO, Söderström, about wasting tremendous resources when AI is so good and doing all the heavy lifting. Unless he is bullshitting a little too much.