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I just cant imagine anything vibe coded being maintained for more than a few months.

The moment random bugs start hitting and fixing the bugs starts breaking other things, no one is going to want to contribute.

Its all going to devolve into a slop fest that takes more and more effort to make incremental progress


Have you looked at the code before rendering judgment? It seems pretty readable and well-structured: https://github.com/eval-exec/neomacs/tree/main/crates/neomac...

Emacs, meanwhile, has a 50,000 line file that contains its display and redisplay logic: https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/master/src/xdisp..... (It's actually a pretty readable well-commented file all things considered, but famously difficult to hack on.)


That's descended from its terminal escape-sequence optimizer, the bit of code that transforms one screen state into another screen state in the least number of terminal commands possible. (That display code was later updated to support graphical output like X11 by treating it as sort of a special case of a terminal.)

I think I'd rather have that than the state of the art in "modern" TUIs, which is to do the opposite and treat the terminal as a special case of React canvas, redrawing the whole damn thing every time there is a keystroke or other action by you or the program. You can see Claude Code redraw itself all the time; it's maddening. And the program would absolutely be unusable on, say, a 9600bps connection, whereas Emacs could still get by on that. This is from the company that retains the best and brightest programmers, and will have self-improving runaway genius AI by Christmas, for realsies this time.


human code gets that way too, it just takes longer

Class war started about 15 years ago post 2007 financial crisis.

The banks and those who control them all knew where we are headed, so they got a little head start destabilizing democracy.

Once us working class get a grasp of the actual situation, we are going to be so deep in the hole, fighting back is going to be quite difficult when the "asset owners" own and control the majority of the worlds resources, all media, forms of communication, AI, technology infrastructure, mass surveillance. You name it, and they have already made massive efforts to make sure they own it.


They might own it, but at a certain point it only matters whether the concept of ownership means anything to the people who don't "own" it. Ownership only works for those with assets because they have police working for them to protect the concept of ownership to begin with, but that only works at a certain scale of disenfranchisement and lack of upheaval. There isn't that much in-practice stopping a sufficiently angry group from attacking most politicians or even every-day wealthy people in their home. Money talks, but if the amount everyone else earns isn't enough to meaningfully contribute to "owning" anything, then those people would reasonably stop agreeing to respect the idea of property or non-violence. People without assets, facing down a continual decline in living standards from 15 years ago, should evaluate whether the system they operate in does anything beneficial for them at all, or whether it mainly serves those who they serve.

We're starting to see it in discrete bursts with Mangione, the paper warehouse fire, and in other non-violent ways with farmer protests, trucker protests, etc.. which have varying levels of support from regular people depending on their wealth class, background, and inclination to agree with the government.


hence the robotics industry, and their robot enforcers. and drones

Incorrect - https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/powellmemo/

That was the moment that business/wealth/rich decided to turn their resources towards directly influencing and controlling government. Reagan and his made up “welfare queens” came shortly after and wealth inequality has sharply risen since. Wildly successful coup.


Yup, caught me falling for the propaganda.

1. When the capitalists wage class war: bussiness as usual, some murmuring about widening wealth gap by progressive, diffuse threats to democracy

2. When workers complain about the system: all hands on deck, class war immiment, please think of the children and the stability of society


We are in a silent recession, have been for a long while.

Bravo!!!

A rich people only economy.


We are in a different phase of Capitalism, real interest rates will be kept low mechanically. Nominal Inflation rate will always be lied about. Bonds holders will lose value by design.

The governments and central banks across the world have no other choice. Corporations and big money have robbed our world of capital and are now changing the game to pull up the ladder behind them


They can always reduce deficit and just play the game as it's supposed to be played.


There are no "best" prompts. Its a random BS generation machine that you can at times direct enough to get stuff done for you. The output will almost always have varying levels of BS that you have to clean up with various levels of effort.


"<Country> doesn't have a largest city because all of the cities in <Country> are small"


Someone please put RAM into Maslow's hierarchy of needs


pretty sure anyone doing "real" work nowadays does it like this. The guys vibe coding in a professional setting are just frauds and the slop will catch up to them. Maybe. Its possible we're just headed to a world where the quality of all software is going to nose dive in 6 months to a year


And what, potentially make things easier for a competitor? Not in capitalism sir


This is literally the American way.

Everyone does this at every level, from Execs down to middle managers, for every possible metric.


The issue is that Russians have the patent on this method (see e.g. the Potemkin village).

The Americans were seen as the god-honest people speaking the uncomfortable truth to people in power, supported by the 2A.

Note: there are trace elements of satire and irony present in this comment.


well i've got some bad news, that era has now entered its maximum power phase. Our government has literally been systematically deconstructed to become unable to govern.


Lol that's not news.

It does sound like you might be giving / have given up though? Fuck that.


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