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Do not use a provider that doesn’t let you configure your own domain. Never use that one email address @<provider domain> unless they also let you keep it or free (like e.g. Tutanota, Proton do). Just don’t. Imagine it doesn’t exist. No matter how ruthless you are, it will be a friction in moving to a different provider when you want to.

I will list some:

- http://mailbox.org (I use it; this is my main provider and my personal domain is setup with them and that is “personal/public mail”. They are decent and private. Their spam filter is not the best but much better than Gmail’s which isn’t really a compliment. Other services on their suite - like doc, notes, storage are nothing to write home about. Though their new pricing tiers is not much less than non-cheap providers. I am on the old pricing tier and I don’t see myself moving to anything else unless they enforce it. Pathetic support - they simply don’t respond most of the times. Well, I guess you get what you pay for.)

- https://tutanota.com (I use it, not on the domain though - and not really for “public” usage. Please know that you just can’t have IMAP access - either use their app, or the web app, no other client - or at least that is how it was last I checked. They are extremely responsible, really good team, keep releasing new features - both for usability and privacy; much better than Mailbox on many aspects. They are really good!)

- https://fastmail.com/ (It’s the “HN Exclusive Favourite”. Too expansive for my usage and that too their first paid tier, which is very limited in features aawy. People swear by their mail client - I have never used it and I doubt I will. I secretly suspect HN has a shill/fan/etc following of these folks here just like Apple has :-D)

- https://protonmail.com (I might move to them if I ever leave mailbox.org. They are good. Because none of these providers are good if you get into the discussion of 5 eyes, 14 eyes, and 7 ears etc; I am not saying you should not but then you would end up with zero providers or just one like riseup.net or so or maybe not even that. RiseUp is great though, I donate to them and have a “non-public” email with them which I barely use.)

- Zoho (I’d say stay away; I’ve reasons, some of those reasons might be off-topic for hn)

- https://purelymail.com (If it wasn’t a one-person setup, I’d have definitely tried them; a friend uses them and he says it’s excellent; very good/transparent pricing and he is happy with help/support)

- Migadu (has very questionable daily email quota on their base plan. I would not want to deal with that and hoping for an exception or that it is not really enforced)

My use-case is not hiding from state actors, because I can’t. I am not that skilled or motivated. If yours is similar, I highly recommend pick one of mailbox, protonmail, fastmail.

Finalise a domain now (preferably something that lets you keep your whois data private) and never renew for less than 2 years at once. Have different kinds of backup email with your domain registrar e.g. gmail, icloud.com (if you have one) etc; 2FA; your phone number (in my country it’s easier to kidnap someone and torture for few hours to days to get the password than SIM hijacking/sppfing, you mileage might vary),


How do you socure it better? I have mine on Porkbun.


Fastmail is my main provider for email. Sorry for misunderstanding. I never ran my own email server, but had a personal website on this domain (RIP).


- On one hand - excellent development. This will also push others.

- On the other hand - excellent way to deprive many not-so-old Apple devices from such a critical feature by interlocking it with latest OS versions.

- And yeah, Apple, about time.


> seriously, anyone at this point advocating for any other phone/os/service out there besides apple is really going out of their way to swim up river.

This kind of thinking is a lot more dangerous than OEMs not giving us better privacy and data protection.


And in larger scheme of things that provider is anything but significant.


Wish there was something even remotely close to K9 or Thunderbird was available for iOS.

I would love to have K9+Thunderbird on iOS as a paid open source app. None of the iOS mail clients offer anything other than the surface pretties

One feature I need badly is ability to set any username on my domain. Catch all works fine but without the ability to send emails as a reverse “catch all” the feature and fight against spam often falls flat. (I think only Fastmail client has that option but then it will be another provider specific mail client)


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