What do you mean? I don’t recall ever asking manufacturers if I could trade my privacy for a discount. I don’t remember that at all…people will pay whatever the price is, if inflation hasn’t taught that to you, then I’m not sure what to tell you. The other thing inflation showed us, is that manufacturers will absolutely put a price on what they feel is “decent profit.” Cmon dude. Do you not remember how much we paid for eggs?!
Which, i think it was found later to be that the manufacturers “manufactured,” “scam-bled eggs.”
You know, I’ve been thinking, I don’t think im being paid enough! Im giving myself a raise. We can do that, right?!
> Companies can develop new products without your advice. In fact consumers often don't know what they want.
I'd urge reading up on revealed preference and product discovery. It cuts both ways in that, sure, a company can offer a product on the market that no buyer asked for and have it sell well, but then, the media can expose some rather unsavory facts about that same product and subsequently (consequently?) have it not sell.
> Then why do businesses have sales? If prices don't matter why would businesses choose to make less money per sale?
It's worth picking this apart. Prices not mattering is usually expressed in economics-ese as price-inelastic demand, and that's usually not what's happening. Sales are a mechanism for drumming up demand for a product, with the hope that the additional volume will compensate for the marginally lower margin.
>I'd urge reading up on revealed preference and product discovery
I'm not sure what point you are contesting.
>It's worth picking this apart.
They were rhetorical questions.
>price-inelastic demand
With this you could argue that the absolute price does not matter, but the relative price between products that can substitute each other do. In this comment chain it is being argued that this kind of device wins on relative price.
>Sales are a mechanism for drumming up demand for a product, with the hope that the additional volume will compensate for the marginally lower margin.
It is for increasing demand, but making a higher rate of profit on the item is not the main reason. Things like being able to clear inventory, or to learn about what the current demand curve looks like (to know if prices should be adjusted) are more common purposes.
Revealed preference only makes sense in a world of perfect information. They don't tell you the TV spies on you. In fact, the revealed preferences is for TVs that appear not to spy on you, that's why they hide that information!
> Revealed preference only makes sense in a world of perfect information.
No??? Revealed preference is dependent on what information is known. The analysis is made easier if the information is perfect, but that is not at all a prerequisite to being able to lean on revealed preference.
> In fact, the revealed preferences is for TVs that appear not to spy on you, that's why they hide that information!
Exactly! Consider though that, as the information landscape changes, so does the revealed preference. Notably, when things like TVs spying on their buyers comes to light, a preference can be revealed that buyers don't want TVs that spy on them.
Like, it's entirely rational for LG to want to hide this fact about their televisions, provided that they have the inkling that this would be unpopular. Their behavior in trying to suppress this press leads me to believe that they know exactly how unpopular this is, and they're trying to get away with it anyway.
You’re replacing the issue with a different one. This is not about whether agencies should be able to use lawful subpoenas efficiently. It is about DHS using 19 U.S.C. §1509—customs-import summons authority to demand records concerning journalists, nonprofits, and unions without prior judicial approval, while requesting secrecy. DHS has also reportedly withdrawn demands after they were challenged but before courts could rule on their legality.
If you support that specific use of administrative power, say as much. Calling it “efficient subpoenas” does not address how rotten it is with near enough precision, and is intentionally routing around what the actual issue is. Thats exactly the kind of corrupt attitude that government has embraced and why this is even a story.
I find bezier curbs sexy, well-rounded, smart, and attractive. They are awesome and this is, by extension, all of those things, too! We need more bezier curbs in this world.
From recalled beef, to contaminated greens, to the cancer that is twitter, you will forever remember this period of your life as the dreaded... "age of shitter"
Was talking about the use of shipped recently, and I was mocked for asking such a crazy question, by freshly self-minted engineers, no less. No wonder they thought it was ridiculous...it had been a part of their vocabulary their entire career. All few weeks of it. I wonder what those guys are doing now. This was about a month ago. Do you think what they shipped ever...landed?
"shipped" was a pretty common term before AI though. It does show as 17x more common on github in this dataset but it was used a lot more in product management than in PRs previously.
To be clear, I am referring to software and shipping as a developer who has finished, more or less, their app. Not that I am against its use, I just never really heard that word being used before, and now I hear it all the time. Thus, what the real issue I have with it is, is because my brain has associated its use with a torrent of crap, ie. AI slop. I hear the word used, and I already have bad feeling about it. And dialed in even further, my issue is not with AI just because, it's simply the association I have of this technology taking something that many of us spent real blood, sweat, and tears earning the right to represent, to it now being automated, and represented (badly) by novices with no respect for the spirit of it all. But, this is not a new or unique sentiment nor are my grievances with it. All hope is not lost, though. I know I need to adapt, and I know that like the world, I need to change too. But no one ever said I have to like it :-)
Context aside, I still gotta stand by the 17x indicator or see something that deflates that finding, and if I do see that, I guess all of the results are in question then? Based on the specific use case mentioned at the beginning there, coupled with personal experience (I totally could just be more sheltered than I give myself credit for), and the 17x, I gotta disagree with you guys and say that the finding of the link above is accurate in my experience being the *
imo its a change in definition. Previously to "ship" was a one-time thing that you did for big, highly verified and checked stuff. Physically shipping your software to your user tends to be done after its a product.
Nobody was "shipping" a PR, or a jira ticket previously
I can get on board with this...so you are suggesting the usage isn't new, but the frequency changed can be attributed to the scope change, so the frequency is associated with all of the new cases that the new scope encompasses, which in hind sight I'm surprised that didn't occur to me already, it's pretty obvious. I'm probably a bit hampered by the preexisting dislike for the aforementioned association though. Is there a reliable way to determine the difference in frequency versus the difference in usage, or is the frequency multiplier already based on usage? Or maybe I am trying to ask if there is any way to get a sense of what the 17x is in relation to, ie. what is it 17x more than...if someone said the word "example" was used 17x more than it was six weeks ago, I would know that baseline by experience, but for something like "shipped" it's not as straight forward.
I thought the point of publishing was a matter of dissemination, to make available for people to then try to understand it? This is like saying, I don’t like music, so I’m going to tear down the venue. Then, all music genres suffer as a result, and all of society does, too. This idea is no good.
Somebody, eventually, somewhere would understand it, or at least aspire to understand it. And even if he doesn’t, what have they learned in the process? About themselves, about their environment? About failure? I would bet a lot. How useful then, can we say that it is, not because we can understand it, but because we can try? That is useful. This is about the journey. Sometimes the journey is the point.
This is like if math was fascist, this is what would happen. When you start controlling the flow of knowledge like this, it will be bad news all around. And who is to say whether or not something can be understood?Aside from the math nazis.
If we are going to dictate what gets published like this, why bother publishing anything? This feels like a gatekeeping…that’s exactly what it is. Ya’ll getting nervous?
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