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Where on earth did you get that idea?


I suppose we're making the no-true-progressive argument here? Whether or not that is accurate, anti-progressives use Detroit as an example: https://www.google.com/#q=detroit+progressivism


Not at all, and I don't love hearing what anti-progressives have to say so I'm not going to wade through that google search. I'm just saying that one reason those cities have a higher turnout for Democrats is because a lot of them are (or were) in labor unions.


Are you saying that those union members wouldn't self-identify as progressive? Or that progressivism has moved beyond endorsing labor unions? Or something else?


> Are you saying that those union members wouldn't self-identify as progressive?

Lots of union members self-identify as conservative, and have policy preferences consistent with that on most issues other than labor issues; in many cases they are Democrats, but not progressives.


Certainly there must be polls out there with this information, but apparently I can't quite suss out the search terms to find it. What area's do you think these union members are conservative on? Free trade? Minimum wage? Corporate tax rates? I suppose those might be on the labor side of things. Abortion? Military spending? Public school spending? Universal health care? Social Security privatization? Legalizing marijuana?


Voting Records. Do you believe something else?


Yeah, I guess since you think progressive thought is the same as voting for Democrats, try Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, Hawaii, Minnesota, Boston, New York... Neat how you ignored all of the places that people love.


Except the subject was and is Flint, if you think LA is a shining example of anything I've got news for you... Bah along




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