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A few questions need to be answered (that I couldn't find trivially on Google):

1. What's the average income of parents whose students get in?

2. What's the discrepancy in the admittance rates compared to the city on a whole? [2]

3. What's the discrepancy in the likelihood of admission as a function of the parents' income?

Black people and women only recently were able to go to school at all. Is it shocking they are not able to succeed at a test that judges them on skills that haven't been as cultivated as their majority peers?

Also, competitiveness is not fairness.

[2] http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2016/03/11/new_york_matc...



1. Check out the link above. Roughly half of the students come from poor/lower middle class families.

2. If you're talking about racial discrepancy, Blacks/Latinos are certainly under-represented. If you're talking about socioeconomic discrepancy, roughly half the students come from poor or lower-middle-class families, which I would consider to be a huge win for a elite school.

3. How would you propose remedying the underepresentation of Blacks/Latinos without harming the socioeconomic diversity? If these elite schools adopted an ivy-league admissions system, you would surely see a student body that resembles ivy-league student bodies.


1. Yup, I did check out the link. I completely agree with its conclusion -- that Stuyvesant's model need not be scrapped for something like Harvard's. Though, I never claimed that.

2. I'm in complete agreement.

3. I'm a fan of the lottery. Fair and to the point. It has its own issues, though.

Overall, Stuyvesant was in retrospect, a poor selection to emphasize the overall point I was trying to make. Though, one must wonder why Asian's prosper in that situation and not Blacks and Latinos. It's something I'll have to do research on later. Thanks for the link, it had some good sources, by the way.




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