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> Getting ignorant people to cast poorly-informed votes does not help our society.

EDIT: "Wow" Retracted and language changes - agree that ignorance is something to be fought, but it's a tough determination when it comes to voting.

How are you determining a voter is ignorant? What if someone is informed but disagrees with you?

Like so many things, we need both, and I don't think it is an either/or.

It should be easier to vote (Maryland just passed same-day registration 67% to 33%.), and people need time to vote which can be hard to come by if you work multiple jobs.

We also need transparency on the issues and good explainers. Civic groups have been doing a good job on the latter, and this works well on the local level depending on your jurisdiction.

Transparency may help you understand incumbents, but will not help with new candidates, or with ballot questions. That also won't scale to local politics. Donate to civic groups that are trying to make it easier to understand what is on the ballot. Push for better explanations on the ballot itself. Fund local newspapers and buy a subscription.

Also, in general, if you think higher participation is better you kinda have to rely on the voter - even the "ignorant, poorly-informed" ones.



> Wow. What if someone is informed but disagrees with you?

OP didn't say anything about agreeing with their positions. I honestly don't see what your "wow" is about - do you believe that it would be helpful to society to have poorly-informed people casting votes?


No - I believe everyone should try to educate themselves as much as possible about what they are voting on.

What I "heard" in the original statement is something implied - something deeper (my hearing may be wrong) To say "we don't need more ignorant uninformed votes" when the only thing you know about a voter is who / what they voted for (not the _why_), while also saying there is a way to vote that will "help our society", then you are implicitly judging the voter as ignorant based on your thought of the "informed" vote. If they vote because they like their hair and that is what matters to the voter, that's the voter's choice.

The comment in my opinion went deeper than "we should better inform voters" and into judgment territory based on my reading. If that was a bad read, then I've wasted my characters and your time and for that I apologize!


No need to apologize, but I do think you are reading a bit too much into it.


He really isn't


OP here. You won't find a word in my comment suggesting that ANYONE should be barred from voting, that there should be any kind of test or filter. What I said was that it's legitimate for someone to arrive at their own decision that they are unable to make an informed choice, and that they'd rather abstain rather than make a choice.

TLDR: don't stop anyone from voting, but also don't pressure them into voting.


>Wow. What if someone is informed but disagrees with you?

ig·no·rant /ˈiɡnərənt/

adjective

lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.


I would say a voter isn't ignorant if he can tell me why I believe what I believe in such a way that I can say that is correct.

You need to understand the positions, then you can disagree with them.




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