It is a garden-variety advanced-driver-assistance system (ADAS) same as other top-of-the-line cars have, and not even the most advanced on the market! To describe it as being anything close to "self-driving" is so implausibly charitable that it borders on being disingenuous.
Lots of other vehicles have traffic aware cruise control. Can you name a single non-Tesla that can automatically speed up / slow down to switch lanes and take on ramps / off ramps based on navigation?
There are lots of things wrong with auto-pilot, but it is far from "garden-variety".
So, their navigation subsystem can limit the cruise-control speed before an off-ramp/lane change/whatever? That's nice, but it's a gimmick. It's not meaningful driver assistance, let alone self-driving. Meanwhile, the newest Audi top-of-the-line car (already sporting one of the most advanced feature sets when it comes to driver assistance) will reportedly be able to "drive" itself in very slow-going, very heavy traffic, even if the driver momentarily stops paying attention. That's at least as good as what Tesla will be able to do in the same timeframe.
Teslas do what, exactly? As far as EAP goes, you're supposed to pay attention at all times - the system is not able to make up for even momentary distraction. This is where Audi is claiming to be able to do at least slightly better, in highly selective/favorable conditions. FSD is its own thing that's still far in the future, so I'm not sure how sensible it is to bring it up here.
What are you saying? Tesla does just fine in traffic, you hit a button on the steering wheel every minute or so to show you are paying attention to the road and that’s it. You are still looking at the road, the readout showing the mapping of what it sees to the real world.
The whole point of this discussion is that "Oh, it does great in practice" is a highly misleading metric - it tells us nothing about how the system might 'fail' in a worst-case scenario. That's the whole point of having these "levels" - and Tesla is still not claiming anything higher than Level-2 for their existing EAP.
Right, so you still sit in the driver seat watching the road. Still beats switching back and forth between gas and break, and constantly holding the wheel.
Cadillac Super Cruise is limited to select roads only, their site states 130,000 miles of mapped highways. The Tesla system, I am only referring to EAP, works on any road it can find lines. Having used it the hardest part wasn't in trusting to keep in the lane but stopping. However that part is true with a traffic aware cruise control system.
is it flawless, no, but it does work in conditions I didn't find fun driving in. An example was two lane highway, at night, in the rain, with enough jokers with badly aimed lights or not dimming their lights. It did very well and let me feel confident looking away from the road if the oncoming car's lights were too bright.
I did not buy the FSD suite, I don't have a desire for that level of autonomy and I am not confident anyone will pull it off soon. I mean I have seen examples where they map it all but that isn't the same.
I don't believe this is correct. If you want to change lanes, you engage the turn signal, Supercruise will show blue light. The blue light denotes Super cruise is paused while you change lanes. After you've changed lanes yourself, you wait for the light to glow blue again so Supercruise can resume.
Tesla will speed up or slow down and change lanes automatically. This is not the same. Also, Supercruise is only enabled in very limited circumstances. You can use autopilot anywhere even if it isn't officially recommended.
> Tesla will speed up or slow down and change lanes automatically.
You are still required to engage the turn signal; Tesla will speed up / slow down to execute the merge, eventually, and will steer the merge for you but does not make the decision to do so autonomously (though it'll recommend a new lane to you with a blue lane line on your dash).
