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Except it matters for the people that die in the meantime because someone believed the promise.


I’m not worried about people signing up to beta test dangerous tech on themselves, I worry about bystanders who made no such choice. That’s what really needs to be dealt with, and if people want to take facetious arguments about the overall lethality of existing tech to the public, let them, but I hope they brought pitchfork and torch repellent.


Does it matter for the people that die in the meantime because someone didn't read the instructions, the product description, or the in-car warnings?

When you select full self-driving capability in the Tesla configurator, it states explicitly and prominently that this isn't enabled (or ready!) yet, and is subject to legal approval.

Anyone that buys a Tesla, thinks it is fully autonomous, and dies as a result is failing natural selection. Third parties (pedestrians and other drivers) on the other hand are victims, but have there been any examples of this with Tesla cars? My not-full-self-driving AP2 Model X can detect pedestrians, and will also emergency stop if it detects things. This is aside from the fact I, as the driver, should be emergency stopping if I see a forthcoming collision with a pedestrian!

Think of Autopilot like a horse. You still need a driver, but at least you've got another set of eyes on the road. Sometimes it will notice things you don't, sometimes it will get spooked by things it shouldn't do, but two sets of eyes/two brains are better than one.


What do you mean with believe[d] the promise?

The things that could happen are that either Tesla ships full self-driving (FSD) and better delivers when it does (i.e. it has to work reliably).

Or it puts off the customers again, promising a new hardware 4, 5, 6, ... capable of FSD - in which case people better read the instructions (and pay attention at all time lest they end up in a divider or under a trailer).


People die, doesn't mean Tesla has anything to do with it.


I believe the implication was they were hit by Tesla cars that were ‘driving autonomously’, not that they died of old age.




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