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I wish NY the best here.


But it's New York City lol, it has jobs


It has yuppie jobs and banker jobs. The middle class is deserting the place, and has been for quite some time. You need a healthy middle class. That HQ would have had quite a few tech jobs naturally, but also admin jobs, support jobs, and all the other middle class jobs and small businesses that will benefit around it. You would need construction, infrastructure, and facilities jobs for years to come to support such a large project. So on and so forth.


Amazon HQ jobs are very firmly in the category of "yuppie jobs"


Kendall Square here in the Boston area doesn't seem to have a whole lot of middle-class anything. Even the pizzeria is bougie.


As I learned the hard way, you probably don't see them because they are too busy working 2-3 jobs making ends meet, or they were forced out of their neighborhoods due to gentrification .


I thought the middle-claas was the bourgoisie. (I had to look-up what "bougie" meant)


The word middle-class will probably be redefined by economists (or fought over, anyway) this decade. Right now, it seems anybody with a job and an apartment is considered middle-class, regardless of the fact that they could become homeless or dead at the first slip on ice.

Apparently my friends and I all pulling in the ~150k range salaries are also middle class, just, uh, "upper middle class." Doesn't make a lick of sense to me.


These kind of conversations are definitely what make topics like this exasperating in HN, if people have to litigate the meaning of "middle class" from scratch (including requisite visits to the dictionary) it makes talking about complex social issues completely impossible.


Huh? I wasn't litigating. And I merely looked up slang term I hadn't heard before.

But while I'm here ... bourgoisie to me conveys the sense of traditional morals as well. In contrast to the purported morals of the lower and higher classes.


They named a Square after Kendall Jenner? wow.


To be clear, most places without jobs already aren't attractive to employers.


I suspect they want the new jobs and tax revenue.


what about the credits?? who will pay for those?


The credits? Nobody, they're tax credits and not free money to Amazon. Its a drop in the bucket considering all of the income and sales tax people will end up paying.


The whole point of credits is that no one pays. It comes out of the winnings brought in by Amazon.

If Amazon does not come, there are no winnings, and no one pays.

If Amazon does come, it comes from their tax payments which would have otherwise not existed, and again no one pays.




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