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Employer contributions are tax deferred, not untaxed. Assuming you don't trigger penalties, you'll pay ordinary income on that down the line. I wouldn't expect to retire into a 0% tax bracket, especially if you're maxing the employee contribution.


While true, one doesn't normally have a tax rate that high when they withdraw from their 401ks, so their taxes will probably be less.

Capital gains are untaxed in a 401k.

Depends on the person and how they handle their finances.


> Capital gains are untaxed in a 401k.

Capital gains are taxed as ordinary income when withdrawn from the 401k. The timing is better (since you're not taxed on sale, you can rebalance at will), but the rates are worse than a taxable account.

I'm just saying, if you count employer 401k match in your all-in comp figure, it doesn't make sense to treat it as untaxed; it will be taxed, the rate might be less, but it might not be that much less.


Many companies offer Roth as an option for a 401K and will put your match into it. So they would be completely untaxed.


You can put the employee contribution into Roth, but the employer contribution is almost certainly going into traditional; I don't believe there is a provision for employer match into Roth.

(Working on the link)

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/retirement-plans-faqs-o...


Today I Learned.....

And if I had kept reading the link I found (but didn't post)

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/102714/are-roth-401...

Unlike the employee's contribution, however, the employer's contribution is placed into a traditional 401(k) plan, and it is taxable upon withdrawal. The employee's into a Roth 401(k). Therefore, many employers have found the additional administrative demands of offering the Roth 401(k) outweigh the benefits to their employees and do not often offer one. This is the reason for the perception, or misconception, that employers cannot provide a match to Roth 401(k) employee contributions, when in reality, they are simply not providing the option for the plan at all due to the administrative hassle.




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