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Apple might think it can get away with removing the 3.5mm audio jack or restricting iOS users to only one app store or not allowing flash content on iOS Safari etc., but they sure as hell can't get away with such ridiculous changes when it comes to macOS pro users. What is Apple thinking, really? They might be able to start a global change in the mobile industry because they own a huge market share there, but when it comes to computers, they're not in a position to dictate to developers what they can run on their machines and what they can't. The more it goes, the more of a toy MBP becomes, both hardware- and software-wise. I'm seriously considering switching back to Windows, which is sad.


2019 and you're still bringing up Flash ?

And if you do own a Mac which I highly doubt you would know that nothing really has changed. I can still run the apps I want. I can still use Homebrew to install CLI tools and libraries. I still don't need to use the App Store.

The only difference is that they finally got rid of 32-bit support which was a decision years in the making.


If you have a Citi credit card like I do, virtual credit card numbers inexplicably require Flash.

I'm not saying this is reasonable, but the death of Flash seems to be very painful and drawn out and not quite over yet. It's projected to be completely discontinued next year, but for now, I think people can bring it up.


Speaking as a tech guy at a behemoth bank, that's pretty much on us banks. (And I know the UI you're talking about.)


I don't have to prove to you that I own a Mac. Plus, bringing up flash was to further explain my point, which is, Apple getting rid of certain technologies in the computer sector as if they are the leader of the market which they are not. They already are struggling to keep their current users, and a move like this (getting rid of 32-bit apps) further decreases their market share.


> Plus, bringing up flash was to further explain my point, which is, Apple getting rid of certain technologies in the computer sector as if they are the leader of the market which they are not

I'm not sure the Flash argument really supports that point honestly. Leader of the market or not, Apple's refusal to support Flash on iOS was a major contributor to Flash's slide into irrelevance.

Although it would have probably happened anyway considering that Flash for Android was briefly a thing, and very much did prove the hypothesis that Flash on low powered mobile devices was a terrible idea.


If they get rid of tech, and they're not the leader in the market, well, it's their minority market share, their minority revenue, and as a non-monopoly, they have every right.


No one said they don't have the right to do that. The discussion here is how that affects people who are using their devices and how much unnecessary problems they are now facing.


None at all if you keep using what worked when you got the devices and apps. If it’s not obsolete (the general argument here), don’t replace the OS under it.


> a move like this (getting rid of 32-bit apps) further decreases their market share.

Bullshit.

More than 99% of users don't care about 32-bit support. 64-bit has been available for 12 years (since Leopard), and most of the industry (and users) has moved forward.

Apple has been doing it for years, and every time they remove cruft people like you start predicting their doom. But pissing off that 1% of users has been pretty much their only winning strategy.


You seem unable to keep the discussion civilized. But for those who might read this later, the list of 235 apps that are incompatible with the new macOS version disproves your argument.


That list proves nothing without information on the number of people using the listed software. My guess is a list of users affected wouldn't be much longer than this list.

So yeah, I agree with regarding the cow stuff.




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