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Sweden is much hated because it demonstrates how the scientific epidemiological models, the studies on mask effectiveness, lockdown estimations etc are all junk science. None of their models would have predicted the trajectory for Sweden, not even close.

And that is because none are based on sound science but are guesstimates at best yet are paraded around as the product of the best minds in the world.

Much is made about the growing anti-science sentiment in the world, the rushed pseudo scientific justification will only strengthen that.

Give it a year and most of the justification will be walked back, it will turn out that wearing a mask is actually detrimental to public health. It boggles the mind that people assume there must be no ill effects to breathing through a mucus-laden cotton sheet filled with microorganisms captured from the air, ...



> I don't understand how people assume it is healthy to breathe through a mucus-laden cotton sheet filled with microorganisms captured from the air, ...

Tell that to the millions of people who go skiing every year, or the people who work in hospitals all day long, every day.

I wash my mask every time I use it and I rotate through several of them. Nobody is asking you to wear a dirty mask.


none of that mask wearing is done at the scale and in the manner forced upon the population

nurses change their masks all the time, nobody skis every day for eight hours, (FWIW the vast majority of people skiing don't wear masks over their mouths)

> I wash my mask every time I use it and I rotate through several of them

Like every hour? If not good luck with that, it is a pit of infection, a wet and warm substrate for bacteria and fungi.


> nurses change their masks all the time,

Do they? Are you a nurse?

> nobody skis every day for eight hours, (FWIW the vast majority of people skiing don't wear masks over their mouths)

Show me the statistics on that.

> Like every hour? If not good luck with that, it is a pit of infection, a wet and warm substrate for bacteria and fungi.

This is the most inane argument ever. You're basically saying those same exact bacteria and fungi magically don't go into our airways without a mask?

Masks magically breed this within a day? Also... who says they are bad? Hate to break it to you, we are FULL of bacteria.

Seriously, take a step back and think hard about your logic. Something in your brain isn't firing correctly.


do yourself a service and read a real scientific paper on masks (pre-covid when people dared studying the negative effects) and read what happens on the inner side of a mask

in a nutshell stuff that would leave your body when you exhale will now be trapped on the inner side of your mask where it gets more and more concentrated, far more concentrated that what normally enters your lungs, the new stuff gets deposited on top the old, building it up to form a biofilm unlike any other part of the body

The microorganisms in the warm and wet environment breed, bacterial growth happens fast, doubling times can be 15 minutes. Within an hour you got yourself a bacterial colony right there in front of your mouth, every breath you take is filtered through that mucus laden bacterial colony


Would you like to quote a 'real scientific paper' for me to read? Or just have a snarky response.

People have been wearing face coverings since the dawn of time.

Can you tell me the number of deaths attributed to wearing a mask? I can't even google it since all the things that come up now are recommendations to wear a mask.

> in a nutshell stuff that would leave your body when you exhale will now be trapped on the inner side of your mask

If you want to take the 'it is just a flu argument'... I'm more worried about catching covid than I am about the microorganisms coming out of my own breath. They are already in me, in a very concentrated form.




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