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You literally can't go 5km from your house in Australia. How exactly is that "fine wrt respect for human rights"?

More people have died in a few months from Covid in the US than the entire 5 years of WWI

Again, how is that just plain old dandy and nothing to think about?



US joined WWI rather late. It was not fighting for 5 years.


5km rules are in Victoria, yes. The west coast is enjoying the benefits of its natural isolation and I don't hear a lot of complaints from other states.

Locking down hotspots seems rational enough. How else do you control an invisible virus? What alternative do you really advocate for that is effective?


Going to need a citation for that claim. I'll assume you meant "in WW1 operations". Otherwise, whilst I don't have data for total US deaths 1914-1918, even given the much smaller population I'd expect > 1M per year, far in excess of suspected US covid deaths. The main complicating factor is, of course, 1918 saw the Spanish Flu.

Also, the US declared war in 1917. Spool through the main battles of WW1, when and where they occurred and who was in them.

Also, put bluntly, age matters. Wars are fought mainly between young men, and women and children don't exactly get off lightly. France lost ten percent of its active male population. Death, eventually, is inevitable. Death in a field, often over a period of days, when you should have lived another 40, because some ####### ##### of ######### ##### with the collective brains of a ######### #### couldn't do their jobs right, isn't.

In summary, you may not be wrong but its utterly sensationalist to compare the toll of WW1 to covid.


> You literally can't go 5km from your house in Australia.

I am in Norway, taking my flight north of the country today in 4 hours. It's my 5th domestic flight since May, when the country reopened after 6 week long, early, popularly supported, voluntarily enforced lock down.

> More people have died in a few months from Covid in the US than the entire 5 years of WWI

…aaand?


> You literally can't go 5km from your house in Australia.

In Australia? You mean metro victoria, right? Those restrictions are ending at midnight tonight as well.


> You literally can't go 5km from your house

I live in Rome, near the Colosseum, I never travel 5km from home, unless I have to. Being stuck in the traffic jam in your car is not a nice experience.

EDIT: maybe I should add as a disclaimer that the post tone wasn't obvious.

it came out bad.

My fault.

As someone else said after me, lockdown in Italy meant "stay home, don't leave your neighborhood"

I couldn't even go to visit my parents that live 4 kms away.

So if in Australia 5kms look bad, what would they think about staying confined in your homes to live and work, while also trying to keep your kids happy and motivated, because schools are closed?


Not going outside a 5 km radius from home would barely allow me to visit the neighbours. I can imagine the situation is similar for quite a lot of people Down Under.

On the plus side, we were doing social distancing before it was cool.


Good for you that that policy wouldn't affect you. That's not the case for a lot of people with the infringement on their freedom of movement.


It's affecting everybody, I stayed home 110 consecutive days, when, I was living in Milan until July.

What looks infringement of freedom to you, to someone else is the best you can ask for.

I wish I could go as far as 5km from my house when I was in complete lockdown.




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