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the individual mandate has been ruled illegal btw.

I'm sorry, but you're not denying that her point was my bill or nothing. you just seem to think that trumps desperation to pass a bill gives you legitimacy.

which is, lets be clear, rich with irony.

WOAH: "Notably, you ignore the important point that McConnell also doesn't want relief to take effect until next year."

what is your source for that lol. why on earth would that ever make sense. and I mean that kind of loses effect if dems have refused to pass anything for the previous 3 months just so they could pass something when trump loses



He's stated as much. His goal was to start the new term by passing an aid bill. Pelosi wanted one sooner.

> and I mean that kind of loses effect if dems have refused to pass anything for the previous 3 months just so they could pass something when trump loses

Right, this is your invention and justification. We've moved into inappropriate for hn territory, so I'll stop now.


I'm sorry, but you seem to absolutely refuse to keep the concept that Pelosi only wanted nothing less than her 2.2 trillion dollar bill.

So yes, they have refused to pass anything less than Pelosis bill for months.

And now it's taken so long that your complaint about McConnell is mute right? because it's not going to happen for awhile now.

You can't complain about McConnell delaying it without complaining about Pelosi.

Obvious logic. She has more leverage now that Trump lost, but she wanted more leverage with a blue wave into congress. she didn't get it though.


> I'm sorry, but you seem to absolutely refuse to keep the concept that Pelosi only wanted nothing less than her 2.2 trillion dollar bill.

Sure. And McConnell wants nothing more than his 1T bill. Why is it solely Pelosi's fault that an accord has not been reached?

> You can't complain about McConnell delaying it without complaining about Pelosi.

I wasn't? It's common during a negotiation for both sides to be at fault. I do think McConnell is more at fault given that the white house came to agreement, but it's obvious that Pelosi bears responsibility also.

I would also argue that if republicans hadn't spent the last 20 years playing hardball to a ridiculous extent, they wouldn't have inspired similar behavior in their democratic opposition.




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