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I can imagine that every cloud hosting provider expands their fleet of machines, and also retires and replaces some of it.

If the expansion and replacement will mostly involve AMD and ARM-based solutions, I won't be surprised.

Of course Xeons are going to stay for a relatively long time, because some customers are deeply invested in them, e.g. relying on AVX512 heavily, etc.

I also don't think that Intel is going to go under. AMD was in the position of a second-rate player for decades, and had expensive failures, too (remember Bulldozer?). So I expect them to regroup and show us something amazing in, say, 5 years. But one thing they are.going to lose: their sweet big margins.



I think the big issues for Intel will be avoiding getting into a vicious circle of uncompetitive performance -> lower margins -> less investment in process /fabs -> uncompetitive performance

In part AMD broke out of this by using TSMC, but Intel relying on (not just using) TSMC would be a huge step.


I bet there will be enough interest in keeping a top-tier fab facility and expertise on the US soil. If I were DoD, I would be very interested, for instance.


Probably connected:

https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/317329-tsmc-will-ope...

Not sure if it has to be absolutely top-tier for defense purposes though.


You can go with larger nodes and larger power budgets for avionics and other electronic stuff in battlefield machines.

OTOH you'd rather be top-notch in your communication equipment, low-power sensors for reconnaissance, etc. In some areas, having a US-controlled 7 nm fab may matter even for DoD.


Interesting - thanks.


I personally expect those plans to be dropped or cut back relatively soon as Trump leaves office. I don't think the 2024 date for this plan was at all a coincidence. Taiwan is extremely shifty about their semiconductor tech leaving the island. Of course, 5nm would be very outdated by then either way.




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