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Police can access Ring footage without a warrant (techcrunch.com)
25 points by aerosmile on June 8, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments


I'm feeling increasingly chilly towards those of my neighbors who have cameras pointing right out into the street. It's understandable that people want to point a security camera at their front door, but I dislike the feeling of being systematically tracked walking up and down the street which I get every time I walk past a camera pointing straight at me.


As a thought, how do you feel about walking through your city/workplace with CCTV cameras watching you?


I dislike it intensely, and (to some extent) structure my living situation to minimize that. It's like living in an open-air prison, and in a way that's the intention: https://ethics.org.au/ethics-explainer-panopticon-what-is-th...


I don't like it either, but I'd prefer not being told where I can and/or can't point cameras from my property.

I suppose this is just the way it is now.


Well, there are cameras with on-premises storage rather than FAANG-based storage...


Good point. I currently do that with ZM. I suppose it is a bit more work for LE to request footage from individual camera operators.


Video cameras are the next killer app for E2E encryption. Security cams, baby monitors, doorbells.

It makes zero sense that these things are constantly uploading to someone else’s computer.


If you have a Synology NAS, you can store your IP camera feeds there. No cloud providers needed.

It also replaces Dropbox, Google Drive, Google Photos, Docker, Media Stations, etc.

Heck I even scan directly to it from my scanner so I just scan everything now whether I need it later or not, since storage is so cheap.


Check out Eufy. I'm not certain about how the protocol works with their phone app, but all videos are stored on-prem in a little appliance rather than in the cloud.


They are also one of the few to support Apple’s HomeKit secure video thing.

Unfortunately they got hacked a couple of weeks ago, and the attackers were able to get into users’ videos. According to reports on Twitter, this included users of the HomeKit encrypted storage. :(


Good luck. The one time I needed my Ring to perform (battery life shambles aside) was when my uncle's car was on my drive overnight. Next day it caught the postman, but no sign of the car moving - get home, car gone (uncle picked it up thankfully). Weird, and not great.


That's what the third-party doctrine is. It is a legal way to circumvent the fourth amendment.


That's old news but it doesn't make it any more right... It's probably the largest spying network in the world...




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