However, where does one draw the line between fair use and derivative works?
Creating something based on other stuff (Google creating AI books from the existing ones for example) would possibly be fair use I think but would it not also be derivative works?
There's no clear line and there can never be because the world is too complex. We leave up determination to the court system.
Google Books is considered fair use because they got sued and successfully used fair use as a defense. Until someone sues over Copilot, everyone is an armchair lawyer.
This is the clearest display yet that moderation on HN has absolutely nothing to do with your purported values like constructive criticism, and has everything to do with whether dang agrees with you or not.
I actually have no idea what you were arguing about, nor which side you were on, nor what your argument was. I haven't paid enough attention to know those things, because (a) I don't want to, (b) I don't need to, and (c) not doing it leaves me in the desirable state of being incapable of agreeing or disagreeing.
It's a happy fact that figuring out people's arguments is often unnecessary for moderating the threads, especially in cases where people are breaking the site guidelines. Everyone needs to follow the site guidelines regardless of what the topic is, what their argument is, and how right they are or feel they are. Please stick to the rules when posting here.
