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No. Trying to say they're somehow equivalent is whataboutism, it's insulting to the US and demeaning to survivors of North Korea. I know the US is not perfect, but you can't just go saying it's like North Korea.


>Trying to say they're somehow equivalent is whataboutism

Which is another name for "putting things in perspective" and "addressing all bad actors, not singling out one for the benefit of the other".


No. It's another name for tu quoque, a logical fallacy by attempting to deflect criticism through pointing out hypocrisy. The Soviets used it as their go-to defense for their hideous system by pointing to racism, prisons, lynching, etc in the US. As if that made their shortcomings acceptable.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

You can criticize some party or entity all you want, just make a logical argument free of fallacies. I don't abide using whataboutism to make false equivalencies. The US is nothing like North Korea. To compare the two, unless done extremely carefully, is insulting to people in the US, and demeaning the experience of people in North Korea.

To think of it another way, if you compare working in McDonald's to slavery, you're insulting the people that work for McDonald's and demeaning the experience of survivors of actual slavery.


TFA does not mention DPRK, and this is the only subthread on this page that does. So, bringing this totally different nation into the discussion is itself fallacious.

ps. this is a better "whataboutism" link: https://theoutline.com/post/8610/united-states-russia-whatab...




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