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>This is pretty clever way to preserve end-to-end encryption and satisfy requirement not to store anything CP related on their servers.

It's a pretty clever way to normalize adversarial devices, there's no preserving of any kind of privacy going on here.

I contend that if they are storing encrypted data that they cannot decode, then they are not knowingly storing CP at all.

If someone then downloads that, decrypts it with the key that only they know, and it turns out to be CP, then they are the ones storing CP, which as we all know is already illegal.

Obviously I'm not a lawyer and this isn't how icloud works, but lots of companies legally store encrypted data that they can't decode.

There's no legal requirement that the storage provider needs to ensure there's no CP, only that they don't knowingly store it.

Apple just doesn't want to allow people to have real encryption that they control, almost definitely so they can make more money by forcing people to use expensive icloud instead of local encrypted backups, and retain the ability to scan everyone's data. All under the flimsy excuse that 0.1% of people might forget their password and be unable to unlock their data. Nevermind you could only allow this for power users at their own request but "it's for your own good because you're too dumb to manage a password", lol fuck you Apple.

So it's just yet another self-serving, penny pinching, thinly veiled customer privacy violation, this time wrapped in a big fat "think of the children", which as we know is corporate-speak for "turn brain off now - we want to do $thing_you_wont_like".

I'm yet to think of how Apple plans to make money out of this one, but I'm sure there's an angle in there somewhere and we'll find out eventually.

Maybe simply that either NSA or China said "give us this new scanning system or we shut you down" - and I'm not American but I do wonder about people who still cling to the belief that the fourth amendment would be respected post Snowden revelations.

Hell, I'm Australian - they're probably just planning to push that hash-matched data through servers in Australia so they can see everything, because Australia has no bill of rights, and getting more authoritarian with every uncontested bill that passes. Or some other kind of "legal" fuckery to move even closer to the dystopia they are so hell-bent on creating.



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