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Russia has 6000 nuclear warheads and enough capabilities to deliver them wherever they want in the world.

That will keep the US military far away from their battlefield.



It's unlikely that they will engage nuclear weapon if the west intervene in Ukraine.


It is very, very likely. Russian leadership see Ukraine as a Russian province, and the heart of the russian motherland, and they will treat western armies there as invaders - they are prepared to risk everything to keep that from happening.


NATO doesn't need to field armies, just aircraft. The Ukranians seem to do pretty well on the ground.

"A shame your tanks exploded. Perhaps their car warranty expired?"

For all we know, this is already happening.


“Which aircraft? Oh, this one? It’s not a military operation, just our pilots doing some sightseeing. Just like your lads did in Crimea in 2014, you remember?”


It's FUD. Russians don't want to see as their families dies in flames.


It doesn't matter what Russians think, it matters what Dughin's fanboys holed up under Altai Mountains think.

Go back to 1986, and imagine what the Soviet response would be if NATO would have breached the Iron Courtain and would have fighter planes and tanks in Kiev. This is what we're dealing with here.


They probably think that being czar-for-a-week of a nuclear wasteland is something that's only attractive when literally all other options are exhausted.


You really want to test that out?


When Russians will take Ukrainian nuclear reactor, this war will be nuclear regardless of what you want.


uhm, what do you mean by that?

When we talk about the risk of a nuclear escalation we talk about the risk of this or that country launching nuclear armed missiles at an other country.

How would the posession of nuclear reactors factor into that?


Ukraine is the post-nuclear country. Ukraine has 4 working weapons grade nuclear stations.

If Russian will capture nuclear reactor, they can convert it to nuclear landmine, because reactor uses enriched Uranium, to create equivalent of 10k Chornobyl's.

Ukraine has know-how and nuclear materials (Plutonium) to create nuclear weapons at will. The only thing that stopped us is USA, Britain, France, and Germany, which used Budapest memorandum as leverage against Ukraine to prevent that.


I'll be the first to admit I don't know a lot about nuclear power, but I'm pretty sure you're talking nonsense. To say that a nuclear power reactor uses weapons-grade uranium is akin to saying that a car works by lighting its gas tank on fire. For nuclear power you want a carefully controlled reaction, while for an explosion you want to release as much energy as possible as quickly as possible.

Now, maybe if Russia captures a reactor they could send a scientist down to repurpose its parts to make an improvised nuke, but if that's the goal, what would be the point? It's not like Russia doesn't have nukes already.

Just having plutonium and knowledge is not enough to build a nuclear weapon. No country has ever developed nukes while its main territory was being invaded. For one, even if you can build a device, you'd need to test it at least once. What would you do if you had nukes and you detected that the non-nuclear-capable country you're invading has just run a nuclear test?


You are talking nonsense. I will write it again just for you: Ukraine has 4 nuclear stations with 15 weapon grade nuclear reactors which are producing Plutonium and use enriched Uranium.

The point is to use the nuclear reactor like a nuclear landmine, to blow up at retreat, to do maximum amount of damage. It's called «scorched earth tactics».

Ukraine, as part of USSR, developed nukes decades ago. Ukraine is the fist post-nuclear country in the world.


Oh, so you mean "weapons-grade" in the sense that it can produce plutonium. Maybe, but so what? Also, all nuclear reactors use enriched uranium.

Nuclear reactors can't produce nuclear explosions, for the reasons I said previously. Even the Chernobyl incident wasn't a nuclear explosion, it was a steam explosion. It's no more possible to turn a nuclear reactor into a nuclear bomb, than to turn a gas generator into a molotov cocktail. I don't know where you heard this absurd notion of a "nuclear landmine", but anyone who talks about exploding nuclear reactors is just spreading sensationalism.

Yes, Ukraine had nuclear weapons. Had. It has since dismantled all of them and doesn't have the infrastructure to make new ones. As such, it would have to develop them again. They have to build the machines to build the weapons and then they have to test the weapons to make sure the machines are building them correctly. Then they need some delivery system, which is a problem entirely separate from merely making a device that can produce a nuclear explosion. Good luck doing all that while infrastructure is disrupted by an invasion.


> It's unlikely that they will engage nuclear weapon if the west intervene in Ukraine.

2 weeks ago it was "unlikely" Russia launches a full scale war on Ukraine. Putin is crazy and will use nukes if he deems it necessary.


It was not unlikely two weeks ago that Russia launches a full scale war on Ukraine. I don’t know how or why this false assertion spreads the way it does.


"Putin is crazy." 8 years of warning that he will do a thing if a red line is crossed and he does it? The jingoism permeating the west is the crazy thing. People are swallowing propaganda whole and blindly repeating talking points designed to create animus against a foreign power. No mention of the war crimes conducted by literal nazis of azov battalion in the Donbas that we begged outing to intervene over for 8 years...

We have a lot to hate about putting,but it comes from his inaction to solve a genocide on his very border. Instead, he only acted when russia was threatened. Sounds logical to me.


You're right, it is unlikely. But it's not unlikely enough. Even a 1% chance of nuclear war is too high.


> It's unlikely that they will engage nuclear weapon if the west intervene in Ukraine.

My understanding is that Putin has repeatedly made it painfully clear that that is exactly what he would do if anyone interferes.


People say stuff. I agree it would be risky to call his bluff, but I'd say it's more like a 10% risk than a 50% risk.

Of course, a 10% chance of destroying the world is beyond my tolerance.


Except, you completely made up that probability


Yeah, I mean even Putin doesn't know the real odds.

It probably depends a lot on the exact circumstances/timing. And in the war, circumstances change all the time.

Putin wants us to believe it's a Dr. Strangelove situation, where no humans make a choice and therefore nuclear annihalation is a guarantee if we cross a line. But that's false.

Any line Putin draws can be tested and shifted along various axes: who crosses it, how bad it is for Russia, how egregious the violation is, how well it can be argued that it's not a violation, how long it takes to confirm that a violation has taken place, how certain he is that a violation has taken place, who authorized it, how long it takes to confirm who authorized it, etc.

And we don't know for sure that Putin can unilaterally initiate a world-ending strike without anyone in the chain second-guessing him.


They were pretty clear it was their personal estimate.

What probability of global thermonuclear war would you accept? 10%? 1%? 0.1%?


Ukraine isn't their battlefield though.


These 6000 nuclear warheads are expired. They need maintenance, which only Ukraine can do.


As a person living in Europe, I sure don't want to find out whether they work or not.


They also had like 12 000 tanks but 50% of them can't even move. Same with warheads.

Oh yeah and they can't deliver them anywhere. Then can deliver only a few. Others are short range or should be dropped from old planes that can't even fly.


>50% of them can't even move. Same with warheads.

Wikipedia says as part of START[1], russia has 1457 warheads. Suppose 50% are broken. That's 728 warheads. Even one warhead landing in each of the top 50 cities in the US[2] would be devastating.

>Oh yeah and they can't deliver them anywhere. Then can deliver only a few. Others are short range or should be dropped from old planes that can't even fly.

Source? As of 2009 they have 383 ICBMs. Keep in mind each ICBM can hold multiple warheads because of MIRV. Presumably there's less now because of START, but the ones they decommissioned are the old/unreliable ones, so it's fairly reasonable to assume most of their warheads can be delivered.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_START

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...


Seems like they have been pretty good lately at making rockets go.


> Oh yeah and they can't deliver them anywhere. Then can deliver only a few.

Are you willing to bet the future of human civilization on this?


Even if 95% of their ~1,100 ICBMs are non-functional, they can hit every EU capital and quite a few major US cities.


And they can probably convince North Korea to start shelling Seoul for good measure.




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