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That's funny, after the west confiscated Russian money abroad, what were they expecting?

Private property should be defended always, not only when you're the recipient, otherwise you wreck your reputation.

All wars are terrible but this Ukrainian invasion is no worse than any other wars the west pursued in the middle east in the name of freedom.

I understand it's now virtuous to shit on Russian people (which is ridiculous: you're blaming random people for the action of their government on which they have little control) but these sanctions were uncalled for and are just harming people of Russian origin.

I would understand more sending the army to fight along Ukraine, then sanctioning Russia.



> Private property should be defended always, not only when you're the recipient...

Russia is attacking civilian targets, some them are private property. Seems like Russia wants private property to be inviolable only when they are the recipient.

> All wars are terrible but this Ukrainian invasion is no worse than any other wars the west pursued in the middle east in the name of freedom.

Two wrongs make a right? How does the US government's hypocrisy entitle Russia to take territory from a country that had nothing to do with Iraq or Yemen?

Also, Russia was in Syria to prop up a dictator. Does that entitle US to annex parts of Russia? Or Cuba?

> ...but these sanctions were uncalled for and are just harming people of Russian origin.

The collapse of the Russian economy directly impacts Russia's ability to wage war. I empathize with the Russian people as they are clearly oppressed by Putin and the oligarchs, but obviously the war is likely to end if Russia can't pay or supply their soldiers.


> Russia is attacking civilian targets, some them are private property. Seems like Russia wants private property to be inviolable only when they are the recipient.

I agree it's deplorable. I'm against all governments and all wars, which are possible only because governments steal resources from a large area and socialise the huge cost of war.

Two wrongs still don't make a right, though. Stealing from the thieves doesn't make you right unless you're giving back the money to the victims. The west is just pocketing the money of rich Russians, whether they had a connection with the Kremlin or not. What would you say if the USA invaded Mexico and Europe would steal Elon Musk's villas in Europe?

Why didn't we sanction the USA for Iraq? Or Turkey for Cyprus? When sanctions are applied inconsistently, it makes you wonder what's different this time.

Is it because the victims are white that we suddenly give a shit about wars? Or is it because we need to forget the pandemic is over but the restrictions aren't?

> Also, Russia was in Syria to prop up a dictator. Does that entitle US to annex parts of Russia? Or Cuba?

I don't think Russia is entitled to annex Ukraine (no-one is, in general), but Ukraine is not part of NATO and doesn't have nuclear weapons, making it a target, especially considering Ukraine joining NATO would surround Russia.

I don't understand how we go from the usual geopolitical shitshow that our leaders force on us to banning bank cards of Russian citizens living abroad. I know some.of them, they'll run out of money in two months and they'll have to move back to Russia.


> Stealing from the thieves doesn't make you right unless you're giving back the money to the victims.

It's unlikely that that the Ukranian alliance nets more in confiscation than they will give to Ukraine in military and humanitarian aid.

> When sanctions are applied inconsistently, it makes you wonder what's different this time.

A few things:

- The Cyprus situation has been fairly stable for almost 50 years. The ability to use sanctions has expanded since 1974. Tensions have been gradually easing in Cyprus. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is happening now.

- Most nations would be hurt more by sanctions on than the US. That doesn't make the Iraq invasion right, it just means that France didn't have the capcity to stop them. That doesn't mean they should ignore this invasion if they can do something about it. Since the collapse of the USSR, very few nations are dependent on Russia.

- Repeated aggression from Russia. When Russia invaded Crimea, most nations began to prepare for them to take more. Now they are ready. Iraq was kind of the opposite; nations had just spent a couple of years supporting invasion of Afghanistan, and the US had sympathy/goodwill from 9-11 still. They burned it to inavde Iraq. If other nations were less dependent on the US, then the invasion of Iraq might have been their equivalent of Crimea.

That's how we go from shitshow to sanctions.


putin, is that you?


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