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This actually makes laying off a recent hire sr employee more expensive. As they’d need to pay out all the equity and 16 weeks of expensive base salary.


I don’t think that’s what no equity cliff means

if it’s a standard one year cliff then it just means if you’ve worked there for 5 months you get 5 months of equity whereas you would have gotten zero. it’s not “all the equity”

Also Shopify is -80% ytd so if you were hired the beginning of the year you were expecting a completely different compensation package than you are getting now.


Yeah, I think this is correct. I've been in a position where the company that hired me couldn't keep paying me and we decided to part ways a few months short of a year. The founder offered me the amount of options that would have vested had there been no cliff.


Actually it's much worse. They are doing it quarterly. So if you've worked there for 8 months, you get equity vested in first 6 months only.


If the strike price for the options is 5x the current stock price (due to 80% drop), I wonder how useful the no-cliff rule is for recent hires.


Does Shopify give out options? I would have thought RSUs considering they've been public a while.


Even RSUs are converted from a dollar value to a number of shares in the month you join. If you’re getting them a year later with this level of stock decline a $220k/year salary and $220k/year of stock would be $264k of compensation when you were expecting somewhere near $440k. So even with RSUs the pain is real.




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