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It is ridiculously uneconomical to create the volume for pumped storage. For context, with 100 meters of pressure head, you'd need 25,000 olympic swimming pools worth of water to store 12 hours of electricity from a 1 GW electric plant with 70% roundtrip efficiency. At a cost of $216/cubic yard of excavation, that's over $17 Billion. If you can make 3 cents per kwh profit buying at low times and selling at high, it would take 129 years to cover just the costs of digging the hole at the high spot. Then you need to dig another hole of the same size at the low spot so you can reuse the water.

There are really only 3 options - dam up a watershed so you can get a huge volume without much structure, build your resevoir on top of a mountain so you can get much larger pressure head and thus require less volume, or reuse a hole you were digging anyways such as an open pit mine. In all three cases you are heavily constrained by geography.



Excavating a circle of area A costs O(A). Building a wall around a circle of area A costs O(A^0.5).


It is a good thing then that nature has already done the excavation for us by providing high and low spots.


Yep, now we just need to excavate the reservoirs on those high and low spots, a mere 100% of the work required.


Maybe you could read up, instead of guessing.

Dikes are a technology older than writing.


This is nonsense. We have lakes already. We don’t dig two giant holes in rock. Look at real work pumped storage costs.


That's the "geographically dependent" part.


Except, not.


Lakes aren't geographically dependent?


Don't need any lakes.


Mind the thread context.

"This is nonsense. We have lakes already."


I think you'll find the attached link is project currently in development that does exactly what you're saying is economically impossible. It clearly is not impossible to build a relatively shallow dikes on top of a butte.


I am curious where the 216/yd cost comes from. I had a rock driveway put in at 10/yd, and I assume the stone was excavated from somewhere.


Usually the rock is waste from excavation. When buying it you pay the cost of transport, group that did the excavation might have even paid for the rock to be removed.




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