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The typography that makes their lowercase 's' look like 'f' is interesting. Makes you read to yourself but with a lisp.


Yes the long S [1]. Not used at the end of a word. It's the origin of the German ẞ, which is visually a long S with a short s after. Increasingly often just written as ss, with some German dialects officially doing away with ß. Words like "possess" in English used to be written pretty much (visually) like poßeß or poſſeſs.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s


It's also the origin of the integral sign! (Mentioned on the Wikipedia article.) There's a nice accidental parallel between sigma notation (the discrete, "angular" summation) and integral notation (the continuous, "smooth" summation).

Another s fact is that Greek has lower case σ and additionally the variant ς that only appears at the ends of words, which is very Latin-s-like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma


Am I crazy in reading that the change was spurred by technological advancement (introduction of the printing press)?


That shouldn't be too surprising. The technology used deeply influences writing. In the Latin alphabet, the upper case forms developed from the forms of letters used in stone and metal, with monumental carvings. While lowercase evolved from the kind of writing done with pen or brush on parchment or papyrus. Unsurprisingly, there are a lot more straight lines amenable to carving into stone in the upper case letters.

As I understand it, printed f and long S looked very much alike, and the usual tweaks in handwriting to make it clear weren't really easy in print. So they just dropped it altogether. One less letter required in the typeface, too.


The origins of the Latin alphabet are interesting too: miners in Egypt who didn't want to learn all the hieroglyphics decided to start using some of them phonetically, creating an alphabet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script


True classical latin didn't have lower case. Initial letters were written marginally larger, but what we'd now (mostly) think of as uppercase is what all the letters looked like.


Amazing how we inherited concepts in philosphy, politics, art and other areas FROM A CIVILIZATION THAT SHOUTED IN CAPS.


That’s called “Small caps”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_caps


No it isn't.

From the first sentence of the link, my emphasis:

> with glyphs that resemble uppercase letters (capitals) but reduced in height and weight close to the surrounding lowercase letters or text figures.[1] T


How does that differ from what you wrote?


They ARE the standard size of the surrounding text, not smaller. They have a larger initial letter, for the first letter of a paragraph, sometimes.


They are normal baseline size, not smaller than the surrounding text.


It sounds more akin to a drop capital. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial


Wouldn't be the only one: The English thorn Þ character (making the "th" sound) was replaced by either the "y" character ("ye olde shoppe" was pronounced "the") or the digraph "th" based on a French mispronunciation (A really fast "tuh-huh" is pretty similar to the "th" sound) for use on printing presses made for countries without it.


Reading your comment the first modern parallel that pops to mind is emojis.




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