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Time to give Kagi another go, Google is ruined for me, I just can’t use Microsoft products. Will try again.


I use Kagi exclusively. The results are just as bad as googles, but isn’t covered in spam. Given the sorry state of search quality in the SEO garbage world we live in, that’s high praise. I’m happy to spend the money every month.


Thanks, I felt similar last time I used it. Wasn’t magic like I remember Google being.

I wonder what happened to Google?

My theory is maybe their own systems have become too complex for them to understand and tune now. But they’ve invested so heavily into “AI” they don’t known where else to go in order to fix it ?

I’ve here seen or experienced a search product quite like Google used to be. It truly felt like magic in it’s day.


What happened is that it got gamed, and lost the game. Spammers are better at getting ranked than Google is at detecting them, and the Web has died as a result.


Pre-google internet was way more structured because it had to be (since there were no good organic search engines). Google got in there and had a great algorithm that worked in that world. It got gamed and now content is being produced to make sure you appear on top of searches that might not even be what you were looking for.


Pre-google internet was way more structured because it had to be

I have a feeling many things in the digital space are similar to this and will go the same way, code is a pretty good example. Longer term, I wonder what the generation of massive amounts of code will do to the training data.


Why not just use Startpage?


For me, i prefer to (attempt to) have clear incentive structures. Kagi seems inline with my goals. Search costs, and i want to do what i can to not be the product.


That's fair. Eventually I want to setup and start using one of the decentralized search products that exist. They seem like a good idea, but more investment than I've been willing to commit so far.


Personally I _want_ to pay for this service. I do not trust free search products anymore. Well... they can't really be free, someone somehow has to pay for the consumed resources.


Same, that's what got me interested in Kagi in the first place.




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