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Is it possible at all that we moved from apples to oranges, or is it important to you to feel like its "better"? Because, I get it, something like optimism is important, but that means you end up being forced to argue this way, which leaves you in possibly a worse kind of fatalism than the one you are pushing against: that economic and societal oppression is baked into the fabric of humanity, that we can only look at degrees of oppression, rather than the structures and first principles that sustain them, and say "yeah its good enough for me that I don't have it as bad as the last guy".


I agree, but I just think that doesn't preclude some healthy gratitude for the luxery and freedom we are enjoying these days. A freedom many, many people gave - and continue to give - their lives for and not just in war.

Can't we do both? Appreciate the progress we made, "we don't have it as bad as the last guy", and also looking towards improving even that? Wholesale dismissal of the entire edifice is IMO not the way though.




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