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What we expect them to do? How about making better commercial products to start?


I just went through about 20-30 SRE interviews while hiring an SRE II for my team. Every single one of them that had state management at all used terraform cloud. I found that really interesting because I've never heard positives about it vs the others (spacelift, env0, terrateam, brainboard etc). Not a single one of them had anything other than tfc. Not even atlantis.


Never used terraform cloud and probably never will. Its too expensive and doesn’t really provide all that much benefit over using terraform with eg atlantis.


I've helped companies evaluate TF Cloud few times and not a single time they could be convinced to adopt it.

I've also interviewed dozens of SREs and zero had experience with TF Cloud.


env0 founder here. What were the main reasons that they used TFC? was it the ability for Hashi to fix things in Terraform CLI/providers? was it their size / "nobody gets fired for buying IBM"? something better in the product? something else? would love your insights here


That's funny, I've only ever used Atlantis with a smattering of tfc


I've only used Atlantis as well! We actually need to decide on a service next month. I haven't demoed it yet but I'm really aiming to use brainboard.co if it actually does what it says. It's priced per user, not some weird deployments a month price and it honestly looks amazing. Gives you a gui to move resources around, imports your current state, etc.


same. love atlantis. was happy to read that atlantis isn’t impacted by these changes.


Hashi bought Atlantis.




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