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It's a shame that a superpower like China can't call out the United States on surveillance without it being hypocrisy. We need more countries objecting to unfair power-alignment like FIVE EYES, XKeyscore and PRISM. Unfortunately, most of them would rather build their own version rather than hold the US to a higher standard.

Hopeless "violence begets violence" situations like this underscore how disastrous a full exposé of both governments would be. It's a sad time to be a global citizen.



All major powers spy on everyone. It is a prerequisite for being a major power, and it always has been.


All major powers spy on everyone

Can't we just say all nation states? It certainly isn't just major powers that have spy agencies.

E.g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_intelligence_agencies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Security_Agency_(South_A...


I don't think all nation states have spy agencies.

Wikipedia lists them for 122 countries [1], out of 206 [2]. So about 60%. Maybe a little higher if a few are missing.

I do wonder if there's also some kind of commonly accepted division within those that separates the "big guys" vs the "little guys", e.g. if there's a certain key spying ability that takes a certain level of funding and sophistication. I mean, I do have to assume that there is a qualitative difference between the kind of spying done by "major powers" and others.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states


I agree. In the same way we resent nuclear warfare though, we should want to "de-surveillance-ize" as much of the free world as possible. It's an unsafe deterrent and (as we're seeing now) a terrible precedent to set when things verge towards war.




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