I'd be curious to hear about those. To be clear, the intent of my comment was not to be condescending. It's not like engineers are any closer to resolving those problems. We've just suffered through them for a long time now.

I think the examples you listed were fine examples. I see designers and engineers are in the Same field and one can get the same results from either profession.

An engineer would most likely put more discipline into their deliverables. I couldn’t really tell if you were being snarky.