Right. If a publisher found a specific Xerox machine was being used to copy and commercially distribute a book, in violation of copyright, they'd ask for an injunction on the person doing that. With OpenAI, the NY Time can see their copyrighted material on both the input (training) side and distributed output (generated) side of a specific LLM implementation. So they cry foul on OpenAIs actions, not LLM in general.
There appears to be an open question about if the LLM can freely ingest copyrighted material and output it verbatim without violating copyright. That seems like an obvious "no" to me, unless we decide that LLM has special treatment.
