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I saw a cargo flight going from LAX to Ontario, California which looks like ~80km/50mi distance, which seems crazy to me.

I don't live in Europe, but I was there earlier this year going from Amsterdam to Paris. That's 430km/260mi direct from what I can find. I took the train, it took 3.5 hours, direct from central Amsterdam to central Paris, and no security theatre. And I had leg room!



It's a lovely ride. Even longer distances aren't too bad - to get to the alps, we take the night train from Amsterdam to Zurich. https://rail.cc/night-train/zurich-amsterdam-oebb-nightjet-n...

The train is a superior experience to flying in pretty much every way, the challenge is often cost - trains can be more expensive. And, of course, this is really only possible because flying doesn't have its externalities priced in.




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