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Bye Bye fun.

They should really make it mandatory to know and demonstrate you know how to change a wheel, check the oil dip-stick and all basic car maintenance. That was the best part of owning the car, knowing you were taking care of the car.

A part of cooking is experimenting. If we are now needing VR goggles because you can't follow a recipe something has gone terribly wrong.

I'd wager that these devices will take away skill rather than gain. I know I'm not the VR generation, and very skeptically annoyed for that all this is coming from Google, Microsoft and co. Some things should be real and practical skills everyone should know. The more we rely on such technology the more failure that will come from it.



I find these kinds of responses interesting. It's not like you have to use these glasses, so this isn't really about you. It's about what you think other people should do, but shoulds are kinda funny. Why should someone know how to change a wheel? Why should people experiment with cooking? You're telling people what they should enjoy, but that's a bit weird isn't it?


> Why should someone know how to change a wheel?

Because if your car tyre blows out on the motorway causing a an accident because you didn't check the pressure. You should of known that by not checking your wheel, even just kicking it to gauge the pressure.

> Why should people experiment with cooking?

I'm not saying should. If people like simple food, great. If people want dead food like McD, fine.

I find the best part of cooking is experimenting. Making the same cheese toastie over and over again gets boring. The same with pizza.

> You're telling people what they should enjoy

No I'm not. I'm not telling you shouldn't be on HN right now. I'm saying there are definitely should's in life you should know without needing some sort of technological device. Like how to look after your car so you don't cause a catastrophe.

Should an airline not look after their aeroplanes? Boeing didn't and look what happened.


What does checking the tyre pressure have to do with changing a wheel? Most people do know how to check their tyre pressure, but have never had to change a wheel. My car doesn't even have a spare tyre. If my tyre catastrophically fails in a way the emergency puncture repair kit can't fix, I'm just calling the recovery service. It might set me back a few hours, but I haven't even had a puncture in 15 years of driving so I'll take the hit.

Moreover, what does it matter if someone knows how to check their tyre pressure, provided they know that it needs to be checked to keep the car safe, and where to take it to get it checked? Most garages here will do those sort of basic checks for free.


> should of known

You should _have_ looked into grammar and spelling before you started posting on the internet.


I disagree with the parent poster (as I've replied elsewhere) but this is a boring and facile response. Do better.


thank you, your feedback is very important to me! I will now do some soul searching.


These kinds of responses seem interesting but they really aren't.

It's just a modern variant of an old man yelling at progress and being a crotchety contrarian for contrarians sake.

All too often the basis of these kinds of arguments are a just-so fallacy where the person using them is oblivious to the fact that generations prior to them would look at their skill-set and the skills that they promote as the best as worse than the ones they had.

The people making these arguments just want to tell everyone that they're better than the kids today and everything is going to pot.


I'm 35. Not that old, still young-ish. When you reach 35, you run out of hope, shiny when your still navigating a life that was promised to me that never came. I see where the future is heading and by god is it going to suck.

The younger generations will always think it's better, but that's okay they lack life experience, only time will tell.

Mental illness is on the rise. More people are more depressed than ever. People are poor, technology is closed off. And you telling me it's going to get better because some $corp releases some AI goggles? Can you afford to compete? How am I suppose to reach out to the world of capitalism when corporate runs the show?

I've been working twenty years in IT. All before CloudOps, DevOps, SRE's were a thing. I'm a Unix engineer. When I started virtualization wasn't even a thing.

My apartment only has 2Mb ADSL, I can't even play VRChat if I desired to. That was revolutionary for it's time. I have a Valve Index gathering dust.

You have to embrace, you have no choice otherwise your thrown out. I'm not sorry for being cynical when all I've seen the past fifteen years of promises given to me which have been broken every time. The cycle continues and we all lap the koolaid with our eyes closed. Even myself hopes it will get better, we want better but no, no one wants to turn the page of the plastic age.

It takes a lot to open your eyes and see how reality truly is but that's okay. We don't need to look at it because we now have hi-tech computer monitors in-front of our eyes feeding us soon to be sponsored and controlled information to tell us that everything is okay, what we want. Everything will be better with these glasses, I was promised it too and they screwed on that. I'm more unhappy with an latest iPhone than I have ever been, I can't even listen to music without requiring to own Bluetooth headphones.

Hey, look. I commented exactly like your comment said. Kudos. This is less than what's real and we are doing nothing about it other than letting the corps have more of their cake so they can put up further control in the walled gardens we all live in. We can't even settle on world peace. The divide is bigger than ever and we have technology to thank for that.

Sorry for speaking my mind, your not allowed to do that nowadays because we all should be smiling and nodding lapping whatever is given to us. Some younger generations do, and are they in for a shock with the after taste. I feel sorry for them.

I'm sure this will rub some the wrong way. Feel free to change my view because while technology has gotten better allowing us to achieve futuristic things, we can launch rockets to Mars. A surgeon can preform microscopic operations from their house, fly a helicopter in space. I acknowledge it But what does that really get us? At what cost? It's not all that bad, right? You really think you're going to get it easy in your life time because of? Nah.

Here's a GPT-prompt for you: Restore harmony to the world.


How are VR goggles different from referencing a textbook, Googling a tutorial or watching a YouTube video?

Perhaps it’s the more instantaneous nature of it. Maybe you are making the point that it is more advantageous to memorize common life skills instead of needing a technical crutch. But how often do we need to change a tire? And when we do, wouldn’t it be better to have the fastest reference guide?


The arguments that you’re making can be made for literally any useful piece of technology ever.

Eye glasses? They’ll make you too reliant on sight!

Computer? The best part about writing is maintaining your typewriter!

If you need a car because you can’t ride a horse something has gone terribly wrong.

“I know I’m not the VR generation”. Sounds good. Then you don’t need to complain into the either about nothing.


Perhaps you might consider technology like this to help assist folks in learning how to do complete basic car maintenance. After all, the first time you changed a tire you probably needed some kind of assistance. Similarly knowing how to follow a recipe is one thing, but knowing what a soup needs to adjust its color or taste is a skill which you can help with.


No accounting for taste.

My favorite part of owning a car is when the automatic transmission shifts for me, and when the ABS pumps the brakes for me.


AI will help us develop technology to explore the universe and solve climate change, and access virtually unlimited energy. Everyone will have superpowers. Sounds awesome and very fun.


If we are now needing VR goggles because we can't make irl friends, something has gone terribly wrong.


I mean sure, and the fun part of LEGO is making new creations. But before you get to that point, building several sets by instruction helps build associations of how to get certain results.

For someone new to cooking, the recipe says "slice thinly" and they have no idea if they are doing a good job or not. They could simply ask an AI if they are doing good and it could provide feedback.


>And the whole part of cooking is experimenting.

Ummm no. Not unless you are already very knowledgeable and experienced in cooking.

I cook nearly every meal I eat BTW.


I cook every meal I eat too. Tonight is Egg,Feta,Red Pepper, pie with a rosemary base.

> Not unless you are already very knowledgeable and experienced in cooking.

I disagree. The only knowledge is knowing what ingredient to add what to effect the flavor. Sweetness, sourness, punch, hotness.

Which yes, AI could provide you with, however any search engine can or even a decent cooking book. It's not new.

Maybe AI is the new cooking book, but you sure not going to get a decent flavor compared from a well written recipe from a book.


It is not fun being broke, exhausted and having little time to prepare a meal before you drop from exhaustion then do it again the next day. Hoping might get something edible is not fun. You just want something that isnt boiled shoe leather and is inexpensive. If you were not born into a life where people taught you to cook I can assure you learning to cook decent meals on your own is not fun in any way.

This "Fun experimental cooking" is a very,very privileged thing.


yeah most people just want to make food that is healthy and tastes good. Perfectly happy to follow a recipe like a LEGO kit.


Same, and I hate "experimenting" cooking. I memorize simple recipes and do them a lot.

I don't wanna experiment cooking, I want to have eaten.


> That was the best part of owning the car

> And the whole part of cooking is experimenting.

Both seem out of touch


You took pride in your car. If it was your car, you saved up for and not one your parents bought you you had a connection. You knew you were looking after it. I've never had fancy cars, they were almost in the state of rust buckets. People used to knock their doors in to it because "it's old, I mustn't care".

No, I saved money to buy that car. It's a feeling you just can't experience without looking after the car practically. The feeling of changing the oil and hearing the different it made.

The principle of saving and owning things too is gone.


This is your experience, but I'm not sure you can generalise it to most people's experience. I like cars - admire them, even - but my car was first and foremost a tool, and my relationship with it was as such. I did the work required to keep it running, but I didn't want to spend more time than that on it. Ditto my 3D printer.

There are a lot of things that I'm willing to give the personal touch to, but there are many things where I just don't care and just want it to work, and you can't know ahead of time what that is for everyone.

Given that, I'm more than comfortable with giving everyone the tools to Not Give A Shit:tm: for any given subject - if they want to experiment, they will, but that burden shouldn't be pushed onto everyone for every subject. After all, time spent on things you don't care about is time you can't use on the things you do care about.


yeah the best part of cooking is eating




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