Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

I see, I was confused because you mentioned GDPR but it has everything to do with ePD and I wasn't aware of this issue, thanks for sharing!

> Arguing otherwise is like claiming it’s legal to steal from a store as long as you return the goods the next day - it’s legal fantasy.

That said, this strongly implies that these privacy-focused analytics platforms are unquestionably breaking the GDPR and behaving in an unethical way, but that seems like a huge overstatement.

I've read the linked blog post and it seems like the analysis hinges on the precise wording of the ePD rather than GDPR. By their own admission, these analytics solutions seem to be in line with both the letter and the spirit of GDPR. The author even agrees that the wording of the ePD should be addressed and notes:

> Unfortunately I came to the rather demotivating conclusion that there simply isn’t any way to implement web analytics without running afoul of the ePrivacy Directive.

> This was a surprising conclusion at the time. Morally we can go very far: we can put a lot of smart stuff together and create a system that can’t be used to track individual users. But legally, that doesn’t particularly matter. The ePrivacy Directive is written as it is.

> Even the EU Data Protection Working Party decries this. In their 2012 opinion they write:

> the Working Party considers that first party analytics cookies are not likely to create a privacy risk when they are strictly limited to first party aggregated statistical purposes and when they are used by websites that already provide clear information about these cookies in their privacy policy as well as adequate privacy safeguards. […] In this regard, should article 5.3 of the Directive 2002/58/EC be re-visited in the future, the European legislator might appropriately add a third exemption criterion to consent for cookies that are strictly limited to first party anonymized and aggregated statistical purposes.

So it's not that these companies are doing anything inherently immoral or unethical as far as their handling of personal data goes, but they might be behaving unethically by making claims that run afoul of other legislation (ePD) that clashes with the GDPR.





Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: