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Its these sorts of straw men that keep the conversation going in the wrong direction.


Straw man? It happened to my niece on a streaming app. She was 11. It started out as innocently as "what's that shirt you're wearing? Can you show me?" and progressed from there.

Straw man my ass.

Edit: I'm against the mass surveillance and direction things trending in, but I think either way we are facing a significant negative externality whichever way we choose. Either there's real people suffering real harm, or we're getting screwed by sliding into 1984. Both of those horrible. If we pick one horrible over the other, we're essentially saying "I'm ok accepting this horrible reality in order to avoid a different horrible reality".

I just don't think we can have our cake and eat it too on this issue.


Why was your 11 year old niece on a streaming service?


I'd bet is a concern troll. There is no way someone can type that as if it's natural to allow children unattended on a streaming website.

We're supposed to be smart around here right? No 11 year old kid of mine would have access to anything other than offline educational material.


As roer said above "Nobody is trying to argue whether child abuse is a problem or not.". You just built a straw man argument around something that isn't even being discussed.


If it's a given that it's a problem, and that we want to do something about it, then the discussion is what should we do about it? So we have to pick something.

The only suggestions I see are things like Chat Control and things like "how about be a better parent". In practice, neither of these work. Chat Control we lose out on too much privacy and get dangerously closer to 1984. "Just be a better parent" is basically the strategy we have now, and it isn't working. I wrote in another comment what happened to my niece, I won't repeat it, but TL;DR as a parent you don't know what you don't know and your best efforts can go in vain.




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