No, I am framing it as a cultural and civilisational clash and shift. This is what matters here and it is visible everywhere in Western Europe.
> and it's unrealistic (and immoral IMHO) to insist that only certain ethnicities or religions are welcome in certain places.
That's an important issue. I don't think it is unrealistic or immoral because it is not immoral to want to preserve your people and culture. It's not a question of absolute (outright ban) but of proportion.
Anyway, this is something that cannot be discussed on HN, or actually most places. Debate on any non-trivial issue or any deviation from the herd has become impossible.
> and it's unrealistic (and immoral IMHO) to insist that only certain ethnicities or religions are welcome in certain places.
That's an important issue. I don't think it is unrealistic or immoral because it is not immoral to want to preserve your people and culture. It's not a question of absolute (outright ban) but of proportion.
Anyway, this is something that cannot be discussed on HN, or actually most places. Debate on any non-trivial issue or any deviation from the herd has become impossible.