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The display the author doesn't like is a specific model Dell QD-OLED with a sub pixel arrangement that causes a fringe above / below text.

There are macro screenshots that reveal the sub pixel details of a preferred LCD compared the disliked Dell OLED, and it's easy to agree with the author's discontentment.

But the categorical complaint about "OLED" is an over generalization.

Treat the report as a warning to investigate the sub pixel characteristics of any monitor you may be considering.



Agreed. Personally, I find WOLED quite comfortable, especially for text, since I spend 90% of my time looking at terminals: white text on a black background. Having the vast majority of the display off feels wonderful.


I'm also on an WOLED with no DPI scaling and also find it easy on the eyes. I do have to disable subpixel hinting though, afaik there is none optimized for anything other than traditional RGB or BGR. I don't think it's a big deal since I usually don't like it on RGB LCDs anyway...


> I do have to disable subpixel hinting though, afaik there is none optimized for anything other than traditional RGB or BGR. I don't think it's a big deal since I usually don't like it on RGB LCDs anyway...

Yeah, I've had subpixel antialiasing disabled for a long time, since before my first OLED; I prefer grayscale antialiasing.


+1.

While the author's complaint is perfectly valid, in practice the advantages of even current OLEDs - for me - far outweigh any disadvantages due to subpixel layout fringing and everything else. Even for programming, the lack of backlight and resulting infinite contrast makes such a huge difference in my day to day life that I refuse to use a non-OLED monitor anymore for any purpose whatsoever. Heck it could be half the DPI and I'd still go for OLED anytime.

The only reason LCDs still exist is price, nothing else.


> specific model Dell QD-OLED with a sub pixel arrangement that causes a fringe

It’s in fact most, if not all of the PC display OLEDs on the market today because they almost all use non standard subpixel arrangements, but will change soon with the introduction of newer generation panels.

> But the categorical complaint about "OLED" is an over generalization

It’s really not, given again we are talking about the majority of PC OLEDs in production today having subpixel layouts that cause issues for users with text rendering.


Yeah. In fairness this may be irrelevant as I've only had OLED on phone screens and not monitors, but for me OLED is about reducing the light coming off the panel. Any IPS I've tried just hurts even on the lowest brightness. The push against #000000 in recent years in favor of brighter dark modes and reducing contrast by making the background lighter instead of the foreground darker has been a big aggravation.


Author also thought it might be a backlight failed for his first oled problem....


His ProArt Display PA27JCV was not an OLED monitor. I believe it is an an IPS LCD w/ LED backlight.


Yep -- it's an IPS LCD. And based on the failure more (here's a video of it [1]) with a vertical bar dark and the whole screen blinking when large white sections are displayed, I believe it's likely a power supply problem, maybe coupled to draw from the backlight. (Localized smaller LEDs, more get turned on when things are white.)

I'd been having an issue with a vertical dark bar during wakeup for a few months, but it'd go away after the whole screen came up so I pushed off opening a case. Then one day the whole thing started having problems.

[1] https://youtu.be/JtbTQ4ldSkI




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