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That is very disappointing coz I've been wanting to try an alternative to Gemini CLI for exactly these reasons. The AI is great but the actual software is a buggy, slow, bloated blob of TypeScript (on a custom Node runtime IIUC!) that I really hate running. It takes multiple seconds to start, requires restarting to apply settings, constantly fucks up the terminal, often crashes due to JS heap overflows, doesn't respect my home dir (~/.gemini? Come on folks are we serious?), has an utterly unusable permission system, etc etc. Yet they had plenty of energy to inject silly terminal graphics and have dumb jokes and tips scroll across the screen.

Is Claude Code like this too? I wonder if Pi is any better.

A big downside would be paying actual cost price for tokens but on the other hand, I wouldn't be tied to Google's model backend which is also extremely flaky and unable to meet demand a lot of the time. If I could get real work done with open models (no idea if that's the case yet) and switch providers when a given provider falls over, that would be great.



I use Pi with Aliyun, which cost a flat ¥40 (~€5) per month for GLM-5, Kimi K2.5, Minmax and a few other models.

Honestly, these models seem quite on par with Claude. Some days they seem slightly worse, some days I can't tell the difference.

AFAIK, the usage quota is comparable to the Claude $200 subscription.


Note as of yesterday, they retired the lite coding plan you're talking about. New buy-in is $50/month for the pro plan unless you were already on the lite plan.


Website says ¥200, which is €25, around USD28.

That's a pretty big leap (5x), but still substantially cheaper than the average American hosting.


> Is Claude Code like this too? I wonder if Pi is any better.

I'm very happy with Pi myself (running it on a small VPS so that I don't need to do sandboxing shenanigans).


Claude will also happily write a huge pile of junk into your home directory, I am sad to report. The permissions are idiotic as well, but I always use it in a container anyway. But I have not had it crash and it hasn't been slow starting for me.


you can use subscriptions with pi.




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