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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about if you don't know anything about rolling coal and you don't realize people like to drive loud cars.

I've had several friends tell me they just couldn't drive an EV because it just doesn't have a soul, meaning it doesn't have that roar for its performance. It being nearly silent as it accelerates hard is missing half the point. It's a common thing among car enthusiasts.



I can attest that a lot of “car culture” and “motorcycle culture” people want the car or motorcycle to be as loud as possible. Where I live they’re frequently interrupting conversations and waking children up. It’s a major nuisance.


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1) I see multiple people doing it every day and my commute is <5mi.

2) These people hate fake engine noises even more. Making it blow fake smoke and make fake noises would be even more of a turn off. Once again, not knowing that really shows you don't have a clue about what you're talking about.

> The major factor for people buying a petrol-powered car is almost certainly the cost.

If the main reason was the cost they wouldn't be spending almost $100k on SUVs and pickups that get like 14mpg to go get groceries and pickup the kids from school.


You are, I see, a member of the "reality-based community" as Karl Rove presciently put it back in 2004. You live in a mental space where you critically evaluate facts and make decisions aimed at maximizing your outcome in life.

You would do well to explore this great nation of ours and realize that a wild and terrifyingly large number of its inhabitants travel in an almost unimaginably different headspace.

The men who roll coal are not doing it in cheap beater cars. A Ram or F-150 Super Duty is a $40-80,000 vehicle which requires $200-$5,000 in modifications so they can pull up next to a Prius ($28-36,000) and belch out thick black lib-ownin' ball-crushin' smoke, damaging their own engine in the process. You may ask them why, to which they'd spit a wad of brown tobacco in your face and scream in primal rage into the air: because f*k you, that's why.


> belch out thick black lib-ownin' ball-crushin' smoke, damaging their own engine in the process.

The black smoke belching is caused by a fuel rich air mixture that leads to incomplete combustion and is pumped out of the engine as a burning cloud of smog. While this can cause problems with carbon build-up in the combustion chambers, it's not especially difficult to clean that out before the engine suffers permanent damage. Most often the worst case is fouled spark plugs, which are wear items meant to be replaced at regular intervals.

The real damage occurs in the exhaust plumbing, typically rendering the oxygen sensors inoperative and cooking the catalytic converter. However, a common way to induce black smoke is by hardwiring the oxygen sensors to report the engine needs more fuel, so it's not like the oxygen sensors were typically working anyway.

Likewise, in many parts of the country where this sort of "coal rolling" is common, it's also common for the catalytic converter to be forcibly removed from the vehicle and pawned off for the platinum mesh inside by a couple meth heads looking for their next fix, which has the side effect of preventing it from being damaged. The missing portion of the exhaust pipe is frequently repaired by welding in a straight pipe, allowing the black smoke to flow more freely while also making the exhaust notably louder and adding the scent of immediate global warming (note: this is pretty much super illegal in most states).


>Most often the worst case is fouled spark plugs, which are wear items meant to be replaced at regular intervals.

You do realize we are talking about diesel's here, they don't use spark plugs. They use Glow plugs because diesel engines don't rely on spark to cause combustion, its just heat and pressure.

Nor do they rely on downstream oxygen sensors like a gasoline powered car. They just use tuning software to up the turbo boost pressures and adjust the fuel mapping. Some guys literally just have a button to hit to briefly swap to an alternative fuel map that maxes out those fuel injectors briefly.

The main problem with rolling coal is damage caused by the extra exhaust temperatures from dumping extra fuel into the combustion process. Plus the fouling up of entire exhaust system over time. Sometimes causing fires within the exhaust system (see Ford's 6.0L Power Stroke meltdowns on youtube)


Rolling coal is extremely not niche. I live in a progressive place and I see it regularly.

I'd encourage you to pause and learn about the culture from the many posters here before making surface level assertions.


Feelings don't care about your facts. It's far cheaper to be vegetarian than not, how many vegetarians do you know?


Appalachia area is a big place... Its not niche.


> They'd get to exactly the same end point

This statement is enough to make it perfectly clear that you have no idea what you're talking about.




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